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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #18 on: Monday 01 January 18 22:05 GMT (UK) »
They were both widowed, according to the parish register.
There's a burial in Rotherfield, 16 Feb 1662/3, Mary the wife of Henry Tompsett.
Which may confuse things further.

Adding to the confusion
Richard the Alehouse Keeper in Withyham was still going strong in 1683 and 1686 (as Tompsitt, on The Keep)

An extra Henry in Chiddingly?
Burials indexed there
7 Sep 1677 Catherine Thomsett, dau Hen
22 Aug 1678 Henry Tomsett
10 April 1688 George Tompsett
21 Sept 1688 Wid Tompset (widow of Henry perhaps?)
18 Dec 1689 Henry Tomsut, jun
1 Jany 1696 Henry Thompsett, son Henry
Also in 1696, Richard Thompsett, son Henry
22 July 1697 Wife of Henry Thompsett
5 April 1699  Henry Thompsett (we have his will)

There was also a marriage in Framfield, 14 October 1707
Tho Smidemar + Parnel Tomset
both of Mayfield

Could that be the sister mentioned in Henry's will? No such name as Smidemar.
She may then be the Parnell Smytheman buried Mayfield, 6 August 1744

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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #19 on: Monday 01 January 18 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Going back  a generation again - all to be verified

Henry Tomsatt abt 1596 Rotherfield

Married Annis Venner (1600 - 1626)21 May 1621 Rotherfield

Children George  b Rotherfield1623-1678
2 other children died as infants - Unknown 1622 and John 1625

Annis passed away 10 Dec 1626 Rotherfield

Married Mary Bacon(b1606) in Rotherfield 15 Oct 1627
 
Children:born in Rotherfiled
Mary Tomsett
Henry Tompsett 1629- 1678
Grace Tomsett 1631
Thomas Thompsett 1633
Catherine Tomsett 1633
John Tomsatt 1638 - 1638




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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 07:36 GMT (UK) »
so here's a few wild assumptions

They were both widowed, according to the parish register.
There's a burial in Rotherfield, 16 Feb 1662/3, Mary the wife of Henry Tompsett.
Which may confuse things further. - Possibly Mary Bacon b.1606  wife of Henry Tomsatt b1596 Rotherfeild . Children Mary Henry Grace Thomas Catherine William John Ann

Adding to the confusion
Richard the Alehouse Keeper in Withyham was still going strong in 1683 and 1686 (as Tompsitt, on The Keep)

An extra Henry in Chiddingly?
Burials indexed there
7 Sep 1677 Catherine Thomsett, dau Hen  Maybe an infant b1676 to Henry and Parnell Faireman
22 Aug 1678 Henry Tomsett   Old Henry b 1596 ?
10 April 1688 George Tompsett    possibly the son of Old Henry b1596 and a first wife Annis or Agnes Venner1600 -1626,  George b.1623  married  Elizabeth Aynscombe Rotherfield 1645
21 Sept 1688 Wid Tompset (widow of Henry perhaps?)  or widow of George
18 Dec 1689 Henry Tomsut, jun   ??
1 Jany 1696 Henry Thompsett, son Henry  Maybe another infant son of Henry and Mary Fitness
Also in 1696, Richard Thompsett, son Henry   maybe son of Henry Tompsett and Mary Fitness
22 July 1697 Wife of Henry Thompsett   Mary Fitness ??
5 April 1699  Henry Thompsett (we have his will)  Husband of Mary Fitness ??

There was also a marriage in Framfield, 14 October 1707
Tho Smidemar + Parnel Tomset 
both of Mayfield
we also have a Parnell Tompsett married to John Bones 1719 Mayfield  she died 1772 Rotherfield,

Could that be the sister mentioned in Henry's will? No such name as Smidemar.
She may then be the Parnell Smytheman buried Mayfield, 6 August 1744

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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 11:00 GMT (UK) »
The will of George Thomset, Husbandman of Chiddingly, 1688
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1H7-D19?i=474&cat=685691

George b.1623  married  Elizabeth Aynscombe Rotherfield 1645

Yes, it looks very much like it.
Has a younger son Henry, and the witnesses are interesting too
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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 11:50 GMT (UK) »
The (register copy) will of John Filtness, Carpenter of Mayfield, 1707 (Deanery of South Malling)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D13S-FGT?i=48&cat=173636

Wife Parnell
John was the father of Mary who married Henry Tompsett in 1687
http://www.thekeep.info/collections/getrecord/GB179_P292_13_6

Any possibility that his wife Parnell was a second one, i.e. the widow of Henry, married 1663?

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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Any possibility that his wife Parnell was a second one, i.e. the widow of Henry, married 1663?

Deanery of South Malling, marriage licence register
4 August 1681
John Filtness + Parnell Tompsett, widow
Mayfield
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DT69-LW8?i=938&cat=604182

Can't find the marriage though!

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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:12 GMT (UK) »
"There was also a marriage in Framfield, 14 October 1707
Tho Smidemar + Parnel Tomset
both of Mayfield

Could that be the sister mentioned in Henry's will? No such name as Smidemar.
She may then be the Parnell Smytheman buried Mayfield, 6 August 1744"

Yes  - looks likely to be his sister - with Henry's Daughter Parnell marrying John Bones
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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Our mystery lady remains Elizabeth  - wife of Richard Tompsett b.1664
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Re: Elizabeth Tompsett, Withyham Sussex
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Intrigued that "Richard" is not a name that comes thru often in the family ?

Possibly about the time of Richard Cromwell - Lord Protector of England 1658-59 ,in place of a monarch and not very popular  ?

or barking up the wrong tree ?
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