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Offline Greensleeves

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Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« on: Tuesday 26 December 17 21:15 GMT (UK) »
I have a rather sad story in the Garnham part of my FT and wonder if anyone can throw any light on what happened to Edith Grace Johnson, who was born 5 Oct 1919 in Ipswich, so we need to be aware that she might - just might - still be alive.  Her parents were Rose Alice Garnham born 7 March 1888 Ipswich, died 14 June 1924, Ipswich when Edith was five years old, and  Richard Johnson, born 1877, Camberwell, Surrey.

Before my mother died - many years ago now - she told me that after Rose died, Richard Johnson brought up  Edith, but that in 1941 (by which time Edith would have been in her early 20s) she visited my maternal grandparents, and she had a baby  with her who was her daughter.  No other information is known, other than that Edith left with her child, saying she was returning to London, but promised to keep in touch  And that was the last that was ever heard of her or her child (whose name I don't know).

I have tried to find out what happened to them, but with no success.  Jan (Groom) has helped me in the past and she found Edith as a patient in the East Suffolk Hospital, Anglesea Road, Ipswich in the 1939 census, but other than that I can't find anything about her.  Family speculation was that Edith and her baby died in the blitz, or Edith married and went abroad, but it would be good to solve this family mystery, if at all possible.
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 07:47 GMT (UK) »
If she shows in 1939, then surely the official line is that she has died.

If she is recorded under no other surname, then she did not marry whilst records were being updated.

When and where did Richard die?

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 09:35 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at births in Ipswich for surname Johnson, 1939-1941 all came up with mother's maiden names so I wonder if she used   another surname, assuming that is that the child was born in Ipswich
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Checked births for same years MMN Johnson and a few come up, is it worth while you checking this  to see if you recognise a familiar surname

Louisa Maud

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Only death I can find is shown
Edith Grace Black died 1992 Chatham
born 06/10/1919
Can't find a marriage yet
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 14:40 GMT (UK) »
 
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No other information is known, other than that Edith left with her child, saying she was returning to London, but promised to keep in touch

"Returning to London" seems to indicate that's where she had come from (to visit) so could be the child was born there.  Maybe she was in service of some kind but London is a big place to search for a Johnson birth even if that supposition is correct  :(
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 15:25 GMT (UK) »
This to be honest is a difficult one as we don't know if it is Johnson we are looking for or MMN Johnson

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 15:32 GMT (UK) »
 Edith as a patient in the East Suffolk Hospital, Anglesea Road, Ipswich

What about contacting this hospital but they might have  closure practice in order, poss 75 or 100 years

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Was Edith their only child?
looking at births Edith Grace appears to be the only one born in Ipswich with MMN GARNHAM

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Richard sounds a lovely man from his war records, good character,sober,steady hard working man.

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your help with this.  I agree,  Jennifer, Richard does sound like a lovely man.  I was rather pleased to find that they were living at 69 Ranelagh Road, Ipswich.  This house was one of three bought by my great-grandmother to house family members, and it was where I lived with my parents for a short while in the early 1950s.

As far as I can tell, Edith was the only child of Richard and Rose.  I have no idea where Edith's child was born, but as she turned up at my grandmother's house in Ipswich in 1941 or thereabouts, family history has it that she had gone to London after being discharged from hospital in 1939.  I assume that Edith is now dead; I wonder what happened to her child.  Really difficult, as you say, Louisa Maud, as I don't even have a name for the child.  I was hoping to find a death for Edith so at least I could, so to speak, put her to rest. 
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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