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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Can't find a marriage though of a James Johnson and a Burns.
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:04 GMT (UK) »
Why aren't they coming up elsewhere?

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Garner, Devon
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Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Very odd, if we have the right family it should be headed by a James Johnson and they should be in Sunderland in 1871 and probably Camberwell in 1881!
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:14 GMT (UK) »
I agree Groom but not so far
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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London


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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:25 GMT (UK) »
I wonder
Sept qtr 1865  Sunderland only has 1 cross reference showing for a marriage James Johnson to Hannah Clarke, wonder if ? Burns has been left off
ref 10a 631

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:33 GMT (UK) »
I wonder
Sept qtr 1865  Sunderland only has 1 cross reference showing for a marriage James Johnson to Hannah Clarke, wonder if ? Burns has been left off
ref 10a 631

What thinkest thou folks?

Louisa Maud

One male plus one female - so no reason to think anyone is missing.  One sometimes sees this at the end of a quarter where an odd number of couples married so only one couple has a particular reference.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:36 GMT (UK) »
I agree, avm, nothing abnormal about that record.

I presume Louisa Maud may be thinking it was a second marriage for Hannah? I think that is a red herring as they look to be the childless couple in 1871.

The only way GS could check is to get Richard's birth certificate. However, this isn't really what she is after on this thread - it is the elusive Edith we need.

As she went back to London in 1941, at the height of the Blitz, I wonder if she was killed and her identity not discovered?
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:39 GMT (UK) »
I don't think we have been told the date of the military record in which Richard's father's details (including the Royal Terrace address) were given?

Incidentally, 63 Royal Terrace, Walworth turns up later as the address of a Kiff family killed by a direct hit on the Kennington Park bomb shelters in 1940.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:41 GMT (UK) »
No red herrings, I just thought that there would be at least 4 names listed

Ah well, I tried, well still trying, how can a whole family not be showing on any census so far

BTW what date was his attestation papers to be showing father's address?



LM

oops sorry AVM
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London