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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Royal Terrace fell within Southwark RD.

The 1910 electoral roll shows James Johnson at 65 (not 63) Royal Terrace, a dwelling house.

At the same address: Thomas Chandler.
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Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
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Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Jan (Groom) might well have found him in 1939, at a lodging house in the same road as the hospital wherein Edith was languishing.

Why was she 'languishing?

If Richard was lodging near her in 1939, then did they both move to London together?

Death year for Richard just in case a will might be found.

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:57 GMT (UK) »
History is silent on whether or not she was languishing but  as she was an in-patient at the time, one must suppose she was certainly not partying.....

The suspicion must be that Richard and his daughter Edith moved to London together, in or about 1939,  in the absence of other evidence to the contrary, since Edith returned to Ipswich with a tiny baby, in about 1940/41 stating she had been living in London.

As yet, we have been unable to establish a death year for Richard, unfortunately.
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Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 23:15 GMT (UK) »
After 1910 it looks as if James had moved from Royal Terr

Perhaps she was languishing because she was already pregnant, morning sickness and all that, well just a suggestion
 
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 28 December 17 02:41 GMT (UK) »
Richard sounds a lovely man from his war records, good character,sober,steady hard working man.

Jennifer

Can someone put me out of my misery??   Can only find his attestation papers, nothing else!   How do I find the army records referred to here that show father as James, etc. etc.?

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 28 December 17 06:38 GMT (UK) »
They're all on Ancestry, Annette.  If you find his attestation papers, click on the arrow on the right-hand side and you can work your way through all the documents relating to him.
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 28 December 17 06:46 GMT (UK) »
Here's a screenshot of the relevant part of the document.  It shows the names and addresses of Richard's wife (Rose Alice), father and siblings.

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Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
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Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 28 December 17 08:04 GMT (UK) »
When you said 'languishing' I immediately thought of a mental hospital or long-term stay (TB?), and when she appeared with a baby I thought you meant she had been 'abandoned' by Richard.
But if Richard was near her hospital, and then they both returned/moved to London, you may have no idea what happened to her, but Richard may have known about her all the time.
Similarly, as you do not know what happened to Richard as you do not know about his death, he may have married again and had a whole new family out there?

It looks like Kate was a grandaughter on that record?

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 28 December 17 08:15 GMT (UK) »
Well spotted about Kate, Chempat - I hadn't noticed that.  So, Kate was James's grand-daughter...  (goes off to check birth records).
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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