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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 20:25 GMT (UK) »
If she shows in 1939, then surely the official line is that she has died.

If she is recorded under no other surname, then she did not marry whilst records were being updated.


I agree Chempat - there are others on the page where the record is still closed and others where the name has been updated, so I think we can fairly safely assume she has died unmarried.

Unless she was in the hospital having the baby, it looks as if her daughter was born between the end of September 1939 and 1941 when she returned to Ipswich.

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 20:37 GMT (UK) »
When did Richard die, please?

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:00 GMT (UK) »
I still haven't found a death for Richard.  The details I have for him are that he was born 1877 in Camberwell, Surrey, and this is taken from his attestation papers.  Further military papers show his marriage to Rose Alice Garnham in Felixstowe, and I am assuming he knew where he was born and which year.  There is another tree  on Ancestry which shows him as Richard William H T Johnson, but so far I've found no evidence whatsoever of any additional forenames, other than Richard.  This tree claims he was born in Ipswich but I have found no evidence to this effect.  Indeed, I can't even find him in any censuses, although according to his Army papers his father was James Johnson of 63 Royal Terrace, Kennington Park.  He also had a brother, William, who served in the Hampshire Regiment, and sisters Margaret and Kate.
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Marriage took place June qtr 1915 Woodbridge registration district 4a 3745

Did you find Richard on 1939?

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Jan (Groom) might well have found him in 1939, at a lodging house in the same road as the hospital wherein Edith was languishing.
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:46 GMT (UK) »
As GS said, there is a possibility that he was a boarder in the same road as the hospital in 1939.

There is a death in 1958 Camberwell ( where he was born) of a Richard Johnson born 1877, but it isn’t an uncommon name so really impossible to say if it was him. However, his death doesn't help find Edith unless she was still alive and registered it.
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Having tried to find Richard's birth  have come across the following, I have no idea if it is anything to do with your Richard

Richard born 1877 Camberwell
Margaret born 1873  Sunderland
William born 1870 Sunderland
Not found Kate yet

All mother's maiden name BURNS

IS THIS JUST A COINCIDENCE?

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Yes -

JOHNSON, RICHARD    mmn   BURNS     
GRO Reference: 1877  J Quarter in CAMBERWELL 
Volume 01D  Page 748
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Oh amazing, Louisa Maud and Jan!!!!!
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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