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Offline Winterbloom21

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Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« on: Wednesday 27 December 17 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everyone,

I wasn't sure which forum to post this in because of the two different locations.

I haven't been on Rootschat for a very long time, but I do remember that in the past people were extremely helpful.      I'm wondering now whether anyone can help me with this.

I have my cousin's grandparents marriage certificate, showing his grandfather John Clark aged 29, of 149 Magpie Hall Road, Chatham, Kent, marrying his grandmother Mary Agnes McLoughlin, 26, of 9 Bath Mill Cottages, Lancaster, in St. Peter's Church, East Road Lancaster (RC) on 13th September 1909.

John Clark's father is called William Clark, a storekeeper and Mary Agnes's father is Charles McLoughlin a Labourer.    The witnesses are W. H. Clark and Mary E. Clark.

I have tried every possible combination I can think of in the records to try to track their birth registration, or their location in any of the census records since their birth, and have failed miserably.

I did find a marriage in an on line parish clerk's records for a Charles McLaughlin of the right age in the right neighbourhood on 24.July 1880 to an Elizabeth Ann Wilson.    This was in a Cof E church and may or may not be the same Charles.

I am really flagging now, and would appreciate any help that more effective searchers may be able to give me.

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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Did they have twins  :-\
JOHN CLARK
MARY  CECILIA CLARK    
mmn MCLOUGHLIN     
1912  Dec Quarter
MEDWAY  Volume 02A  Page 1334   
 
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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 13:33 GMT (UK) »
This looks like them in 1911 both bn Lancaster
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWDN-5N3

CLARK, HERBERT  LAWRENCE     mmn MCLAUGHLIN     
1910  Sept Quarter in MEDWAY  Volume 02A  Page 723
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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that's them all right, Rosie.    What I'm trying to do is to trace them in the records before that marriage in 1909 and hopefully trace their parents back further.    If you can see anything further back in the mists of time, I'd be most grateful!
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 13:46 GMT (UK) »
William Clark - occ Storekeeper

1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49N-FRD

1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9VQ-HVS
9 Bath Mill Cottages

1881 with John age 1 - RG11 /4266 f83 p16
Common Garden Street, Lancaster
William age 48 Store keeper bn Dolphonholme
Ellen 38 bn Galgate
Jane A 6
Agnes 4
Mary E 2
John 1
children all bn Lancaster
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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 14:03 GMT (UK) »
1891 - 9 Bath Mill Cottages, Lancaster
William Clark   52 - store keeper in cotton Mill bn Dolphinholme
Ellen Clark   48 bn Thurnham
Jane A Clark   16
Mary E Clark   12
John Clark   11
William H Clark   9
children all bn Lancaster

They are still at that address after Johns marriage.  Mary Agnes was not giving her home address when she married
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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Rose, this is amazing!!    Thank you SO much.    I can see now that the witnesses on the marriage cert were John's brother and sister.

But, what is going on in 1891?     The Clarks are all living at the address given by John's McLaughlin bride nearly twenty years later??      Are the McLaughlins there too?
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 14:10 GMT (UK) »
It would appear that it is the Clarks who are resident at 9 Bath Mill Cottages they were there from at least 1891
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Re: Looking for Clarks (in Kent) and McLaughlins (in Lancaster)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Oh, sorry I've just read your last comment about them being there all the time.    How odd.   Well, I wonder now whether the Charles McLaughlin I found in the OnLine Parish records is the one after all.   S   (Can see your further post and will read that now.)
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

A British Islander, born Dublin of Irish/Anglo roots. Ancestors have crossed and recrossed the Irish sea in every generation.