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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 28 December 17 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Using Lan OPC and 1818+/- 5 i don't see any baptism of a child to John,a grocer.Maybe Lettice was illegitimate and dreamt up her fathers name to avoid embarrassment.
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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 December 17 07:41 GMT (UK) »
What about the Thomas Kenyon and his wife Jane nee Cooper who took in all of James and Lettice Fish' children, he was a bricklayer also, but quite a responsibility to take in all three children, related in anyway?
1851 census Blackburn, Richard Fish 9, Ann Fish 5, Letitia Fish 2.

In 1861 even though Thomas has died and Jane is living with her married daughter Ann Hilton, Lettice Fish is still living with them described as an orphan.

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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 December 17 07:58 GMT (UK) »
can you post who she married please - there is a record on www.geneanet.org and need to see if she is the right Lettice - it states Blackburn -
I am confused - marriages to Thomas Cowpe  - James Fish  - John Lomax - which one did your Lettice marry ?
ADDED -OK James Fish at Manchester Cathedral
the Blackburn Lettice Hayhurst marries Thomas Cowpe -  could you post the 1841 census you have of James Fish and family in Blackburn please with Lettice
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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 28 December 17 08:20 GMT (UK) »
OK - you never mentioned that in 1841 census James Fish aged 20 -24 Lettice Fish aged 20 - 24 - William Poston aged 15-19 and Oliver Hirst .aged 15-19 are in an Institution ...in Union Street, Blackburn ,Lancashire ..
Can any member advise us as to what this Institution was please ?  I will search this site to see if it is mentioned  :)
added -not mentioned on this site - been on map of Union Street and it is only a small Street - so doen't look like a Workhouse or Hospital ??...any thoughts ??
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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 28 December 17 08:32 GMT (UK) »
Findmypast Newspapers

30 September 1846 Blackburn Standard.
John Hayhurst, Charles Warmsley, Henry Smithies, James Turner, Robert Parkinson something concerning a partnership, I don't have a sub so cannot read all of it.
My point is that a Charles Warmsley signed as a witness to the marriage of James Fish to Lettice Hayhurst, could be a clue.

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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 28 December 17 08:40 GMT (UK) »
James Fish buried St Mary the Virgin Blackburn 25 November 1849 aged 30.

Lettice also died aged 30 in 1849, was there a flu epidemic or some other malady going around.

Do you have the death certificates, who reported the deaths to the registrar? 

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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 28 December 17 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Oooh thanks so much for all this guys! No I donít have their death certificates. I should perhaps order them.
I do have Blackburn Kenyonís in my tree but they are on my mums side and these Fish/Hayhurst are on my dadís side! I have wondered if there could be some connection because as you say itís quite a commitment to take on three orphan children but I havenít found a link as yet.
I hadnít realised that the 1841 address was an institution and I donít know who the other two people in the household are. I did wonder if Oliver Hirst may have been  mistranscribed and he could be a Hayhurst but no evidence for this.
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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 28 December 17 17:33 GMT (UK) »
1841 isn't an Institution, they are living on Union Street.
The cover page for the area states it is for Pump Street, Back Street and Union Street.

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Re: Lettice Hayhurst - looking for bapt c.1818
« Reply #17 on: Friday 29 December 17 05:22 GMT (UK) »
it states clearly on this that it is an Institution


Lettice Fish
 
England and Wales Census, 1841
   




 
 Name     Lettice Fish   
 Titles and Terms     NULL   
 Event Type     Census   
 Event Date     1841   
 Event Place     Blackburn, Lancashire, England   
 Residence Note     Union Street   
 Gender     Female   
 Age     20-24   
 Age (Original)     20   
 Occupation     Null   
 Birth Year (Estimated)     1817-1821   
 Birthplace     Lancashire   
 Registration District     Blackburn   
 Parish     Blackburn   
 County     Lancashire   
 Page Number     3   
 Registration Number     HO107   
 Piece/Folio     502/4   
 Affiliate Record Type     Institution   
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