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James spence
« on: Thursday 28 December 17 03:38 GMT (UK) »
James Spence sr. Born isle of Wight between 1788 - 1790.  I am trying to find his family.

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Re: James spence
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 December 17 06:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi missysue,

May I ask where you got James POB/DOB from?

Only one I can find is;

1851 Census Lambeth, Surrey;
James Spence   53 born Isle of Wight (1798)
Jane E Spence   53
Jane Hickson Spence   31
Edward T Spence 30
Mary Anna Spence 26
Emma Spence   21
Alfred Spence   16
Fanny Spence   14
Harriette Spence 12
Walker Spence   10
Henry Spence   10
Julia Spence   8
Charlotte Cook   21
Jane Hickson   2
Rose Hickson   3 mths

1841 Census Hampshire;
James Spencer   57
E Janet Spencer   44
Jane Spencer   23
Robert Spencer   20
Mary Spencer   18
John Spencer   15
Peter Spencer   13
Emma Spencer   12
Charles Spencer   9
Alfred Spencer   8
Francis Spencer   4
Harriett Spencer 3
Manwaring Spencer 3 mths
Henry Spencer   3 mths

Henry/Manwarings Mothers mn was JONES (Gro Index)

Marriage;
2 February 1815, St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire
James SPENCE to Jane Elizabeth JONES


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Re: James spence
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 December 17 06:55 GMT (UK) »
Have you details of James Spence Jnr.  Was he b 1800 IOW, wife Jane?

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Re: James spence
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 December 17 07:10 GMT (UK) »
The one I am looking at is born c 1784(1841 Census) and 1798 (1851 Census) but image of age 1851 is hard to read so may be 1778?.

He died 1860

SPENCE, JAMES,  age 85 ***
GRO Reference: 1860  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 235

So born c 1775
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Re: James spence
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 December 17 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Transcript on FS says born 1800 IOW. Janes born Chester 1798.

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Re: James spence
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 December 17 07:38 GMT (UK) »
I see a lot of the info has been found for you on another post;

This from Jorose;

The Times, Thursday, Apr 05, 1860; pg. 1; Issue 23586; col A
On Tuesday, the 2nd inst, at 18, Park-terrace, Brixton, Surrey, James Spence, Esq, formerly of Liverpool, aged 85
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Re: James spence
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 December 17 13:35 GMT (UK) »
On the marriage certificate  james lists his age as 27 (1815) and wife Jane is 17.  The 1851 census says his birth was 1798, but actually that is Jane's birth year. 

Math would have him born around 1788. I have a lot of info on his children, but no one has been able to find his parents or if any siblings.

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Re: James spence
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 December 17 19:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I found this, 

Chester Chronicle 03 February 1815
Married
Yesterday at St Oswald's, by the Rev. J Ireland, James SPENCE Esq. of Montego Bay, Jamaica to Jane Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Mr R Jones, of Eastgate Street, in this city.

Spence seems to be quite a popular name in Jamaica.

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Re: James spence
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 December 17 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the actual marriage certificate goes into more details...James Spence's age in 1715 listed as 27.  His wife's father is present as a witness at the marriage, but no parent of James seems to be present.  Perhaps decreased. 

It is his parents that no one has been able to locate.  I haven't found a christening record for him on IOW.