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Offline magslote

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Helping a family member with the above family.on 11.6.1909 sailed to u.s.a. on a S.S. ARABIC from liverpool, arriving in N.Y. on 20.6.1909, to stay with friends at ? street, 175, Rochester N.Y.
Alfred returns to U.K.on 7.10.1912, wife ellen 26, and baby Jessie, 2years, arriving in liverpool on the Mauritania, would like to find more imfo on Jessie, born 1911 in U.S.A. her life and if she married,???
very many thanks.Margaret.

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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:19 GMT (UK) »
Passenger Ship Record. They are on lines 3 & 4.

Destination is 175 Spring St. Rochester, Ny

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This appears to be them in 1910 census. They are boarders at 175 Spring St. Rochester, NY. Listed as being married 1 year and Alfred is a waiter.

1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5W6-GJB

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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Without knowing where they went to live, it's a needle in a haystack.

There are a couple of Burton births with MMN steel
eg Albert F W Burton   1914   Croydon, Surrey, England   

and a candidate for that man could be the one in 1939 Coulsdon and Purley U.D., Surrey, England.
I suggest that you friend buys the 1939 record and works on eliminating him.

Too many Jessie Burton in deaths/ marriages to know which if any is the right one.
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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:32 GMT (UK) »
Or if the MMN is Steele, work on these:

Clement J Burton 1913   Ely, Cambridgeshire, England   
   
Thomas Burton  1914   Ely, Cambridgeshire, England   
   
Alfred W Burton   1915   Ely, Cambridgeshire, England   

Could the man b 1885 have died in WW1? He's the right sort of age to have served.
Check cwgc site. Is this the father of Jessie? You don't give his parental info

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1740674/burton,-alfred/
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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 December 17 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Aren't we to assume that Alfred was married and Jessie was born in the United States, presumably in or around Rochester, NY?
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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 December 17 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Aren't we to assume that Alfred was married and Jessie was born in the United States, presumably in or around Rochester, NY?

What do you see in the replies that contradicts Jessie's birthplace?
The marriage information has been given as 10 days before they got on the boat, so not USA.
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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 December 17 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Rochester city directories

1911
Burton, Alfred, manager, boards 179 Spring St.

1912
Burton, Alfred, manager 22 State, home 18 1/2 Charlotte

1913
Burton, Alfred, removed to Canada

The passenger list to Liverpool said their intended country of future residence was a foreign country - that is, not England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, or a British possession.  I don't see a passenger list of them coming back, so I'm not sure if they did return to the US, went to Canada, or stayed put where they were.

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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 December 17 15:48 GMT (UK) »
In case it helps with figuring him out, the 1909 passenger list above said that Alfred was previously in Rochester for 2 years and mentions 1908, which may be when he left the US.  This passenger list from 1905 has an Alfred Burton of the right age who was a basket maker, which was the same occupation as the 1909 passenger list.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2Q3C-38H

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Re: Alfred Burton 1883=ellen augusta, nee steel married 1.6.1909 wilburton cambs.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 December 17 16:15 GMT (UK) »
Helping a family member with the above family.on 11.6.1909 sailed to u.s.a. on a S.S. ARABIC from liverpool,

Alfred returns to U.K.on 7.10.1912,
wife ellen 26, and baby
Jessie, 2years, arriving in liverpool on the Mauritania,


For info.

Alfred Burton occ Engineer
Mrs ditto wife
Departure 11 Jun 1909 Port of Departure:   Liverpool
Destination Port:   New York, USA
Ship Arabic

Alfred Burton 29 occ bookkeeper
Helen H'wife 26
Jessie 2
Departure:   New York
Arrival Date:   7 Oct 1912 Port of Arrival:   Liverpool
Ship Mauretania

   
Could the man b 1885 have died in WW1? He's the right sort of age to have served.
Check cwgc site. Is this the father of Jessie? You don't give his parental info

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1740674/burton,-alfred/


There's also this entry - index only

Alfred Burton Birth place Haddenham, Isle of Ely
Death 30 Aug 1918 France and Flanders
Enlistment Place:   Haddenham
Rank:   Corporal Regiment:   Suffolk Regiment Battalion:   2nd Battalion
Regimental Number:   42526
Type of Casualty:   Killed in action
Theatre of War:   Western European Theatre
Comments:   Formerly 30828, Beds Regt., M.M.