Birth place of Joanna cante/caute c1849

[kitman64]

Johanna Cante/Caute born c1849 married John Roderick in Pontypool 5th july 1871 Johanna died sep q 1886 the only census I have her on is the 1881, her place of birth is given as "Marthen Churchtown, Kent???" any guidance would be appreciated
kitman

[rosie99]

Her marriage states she is 23 and a spinster - her father is Dennis Donovan occ labourer

[rosie99]

1871 has a Johanna Canty living at the Montague Inn in Pontypool age 22 Charwoman born London 

RG10/5331 f102 p63

[rosie99]

Childrens birth registrations suggest other variations of her surname 

RODERICK, WILLIAM       mmn CANT     
1872  March Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 134

RODERICK, AGNES       mmn CARTY     
1874  Dec Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 148
   
RODERICK, MARY  ANN     mmn CANDY     
1873  Jun Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 156   

RODERICK, GEORGE  HENRY     mmn CANTEY     
1876  June Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 171

RODERICK, ELIZABETH  JESSIE     mmn CANTY     
1878  March Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 138
   
RODERICK, EMMA  ELIZA     mmn CANTY 
1881  Dec Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 118
 

[rosie99]

That Joanna Canty is in Whitechapel in 1861 - parents James & Elizabeth
RG09 / 273 f81 p22

She is the eldest child - both parents bn Ireland.  I wonder if she was born before the marriage 



Maybe not 

[JenB]

1871 has a Johanna Canty living at the Montague Inn in Pontypool age 22 Charwoman born London 

Joanna Canty is in Whitechapel in 1861 - parents James & Elizabeth
RG09 / 273 f81 p22

She is the eldest child - both parents bn Ireland.  I wonder if she was born before the marriage 

But check 1871 census RG 10 / 522 / 56 / 7 - a 21 year old Johanna Canty is still in Whitechapel with widowed mother Eliza 

Can she possibly have been enumerated twice in 1871 - once in London and once in Pontypool?

[rosie99]

I think that Joanna is wrong. 

There is another in Deptford 1851 worth looking at HO107 / 1585 f177 p28

[Barbara F]

Following up the name of the father on her marriage certificate I have found the family of a Dennis Donovan with wife Mary and daughter Joanna in the 1851 and 1861 censuses living in Trevethin.

1851 ref is HO 107/2449 f 131
1861 ref is Rg 9/4007 f 65

In both censuses Joanna is shown as born in Kent.

Barbara

[rosie99]

The Deptford one is at home with father Michael and her 'sisters'  in 1861,
RG09/397 f153 p17
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MG-KJH3

by 1871 there is just Michael and one daughter Cat(erina)
RG10 /745 f83 p15