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Training Ship Exmouth
« on: Saturday 30 December 17 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me where to find records of orphans sent to the Training ship Exmouth in the 1870's & 1880's please?

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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 December 17 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

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http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/TSExmouth/


Looks like the records for the Metropolitan Asylums Board are held at the National Archives

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/8a6a0ca5-e347-4be2-b222-3747998c69b7

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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 December 17 09:40 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 January 18 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sandra.  Looks like I'll have to renew my ticket to the LMA afterall.
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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 January 18 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Looks like I'll have to renew my ticket to the LMA afterall.

Not necessarily. The Boysí Record Books for TS Exmouth (from March 1876 onwards) are now available on Ancestry, in the database London, England, TS Exmouth Training Ship Records, 1876-1918.

The indexing is far from perfect there, so another access route is via LMAís own online catalogue, which gives each boyís name and record number, and identifies gaps in the records. Once the appropriate record number has been identified, the entry can then be found by browsing Ancestry (from the panel on the right), rather than searching by name.

https://search.lma.gov.uk/LMA_DOC/MAB.PDF (MAB/2512, starts at page 144).


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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 January 18 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sandra.  Looks like I'll have to renew my ticket to the LMA afterall.
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You're very welcome. Good Luck

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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:44 GMT (UK) »
Feedback really valuable - thank you.  Sadly I can't find my orphan, Richard McDermott (born about 1871) in the list of boys sent to train on the Exmouth from the Brighton Poor School (South Metropolitan District School), so I guess he was sent somewhere else.  Any ideas please.  He ends up as a stoker in Royal Navy, dying in 1918 of disease. 
Also, in his last report at South Metropolitan District School (1886, age 15 years) it states "Returned from situation"  Is this a euphemism for something more specific?
Any ideas please?

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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Also, in his last report at South Metropolitan District School (1886, age 15 years) it states "Returned from situation"  Is this a euphemism for something more specific?

It usually means that the type of employment that had been allocated didnít suit him, or his employer wasnít satisfied, or they didnít get on well, or some such reason. Itís a common enough remark in these registers, particularly with girls whoíd been sent into domestic service.

Apart from the South Metropolitan School Districtís admission/discharge records, there is a separate register which include listings of boys sent out for training, 1858-1902. This is held at LMA ...

SMSD/178   film X020/416
Register of enlistment into military bands and lists of boys sent to the training ships Goliath and Exmouth Arranged chronologically

I donít think this register is on Ancestry, unless itís been heavily disguised or merged with another series of SMSD registers (which is possible).

Presumably you've seen his service record in ADM 188? The catalogue entry (and what can be seen of the image) suggests he enlisted in 1890.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6676021

ADDED - this service record is on Ancestry, misindexed as McDernott.

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Re: Training Ship Exmouth
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic! Thank you for the meaning of 'returned from situation' and for the further details you posted.  I did not have any of the new info - so thank you again.
I've tried searching 'Richard McDernott' on Ancestry but get zero returns.  Can you help a little more please?