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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 31 December 17 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Well, that's interesting.  Thank you so much.

So Fanny Jacobs and Fanny Wickens could be one and the same.  I wonder who Mr Jacobs was!

Fanny was raised in her grandparents household (Isaac and Charlotte Wickens) and I initally thought she was their child (always listed as "daughter" not "granddaughter").

What should I put in the GRO order - Wickens or Jacobs?

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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 31 December 17 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Jacobs if you want a PDF.
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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 31 December 17 17:54 GMT (UK) »
I wasn't really going to give up!!!  I do enjoy doing it - and at least now that I've got to 1969 marriages I can, at least, read the writing/typing (most of the time).  However, I can't believe how many entries there are - September quarter 1969 - page number 820 and I've only got as far as Harrison (roughly 140 names per page = 114,800 names  :o ) - not sure whether that is the total for the year, or just the quarter - must go and have a look  ::)
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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 31 December 17 18:02 GMT (UK) »
You have been working hard BumbleB :)  I can see the little red + against the recent entries  :)
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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 31 December 17 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to all the volunteers doing the transcribing!

I guess GRO were quite correct - the entry wasn't missing, just under a different name!

Finally, the "father" Fanny's mother married in 1864 wasn't Mr Jacobs, it was James Wale!

Many thanks for all your expertise.

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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 31 December 17 18:05 GMT (UK) »
The good part about it is that if it is your Fanny Wicken (aka Jacobs) then the birth certificate should name her actual father.
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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 31 December 17 18:05 GMT (UK) »
I thought I had read somewhere that the 'new' GRO index was from a different source to the one freebmd uses

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Q9. Why is GRO publishing an online index when other organisations have already done this?

The new index will contain additional data fields to those which are already available and this will assist family historians to identify the correct record. In addition, the index is created from the digitised records and is not a copy of the existing index which is already made available by third party organisations. We will also be able to update our online index if errors or omissions have been identified.

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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 31 December 17 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Cuffie81 I knew I had seen it somewhere  :)
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Re: GRO index PDF Birth Certificate
« Reply #44 on: Friday 05 January 18 14:03 GMT (UK) »
..and finally

the PDF arrived today.  Yes, Fanny Jacobs IS my Fanny Wickens.

Antony MMM is absolutely correct.  Maria Wickens is named as Mother but with no "formerly".  I understand Antony MMM's point that if there is no "formerly" for the mother's name then there would be no maiden name on GRO (which there isn't), but as that column is headed "Name and Maiden Surname of Mother" and the entry is "Maria Wickens", why don't they take Wickens as the maiden name automatically?

If there is no "formerly" does GRO assume mother and father were unmarried?  So, to be indexed with a maiden name, it would have to be "Maria Jacobs, formerly Wickens"?

To meet the GRO's rules, it would seem the entry would have to be "Maria Wickens, formerly Wickens" just to get a maiden name on the GRO birth certificate record.  I don't see why there can't be a maiden name, when it's given on the birth certificate in the correct column and is just as relevant.

By the way father was John Jacobs, bricklayer.  Never heard of him before!