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Offline louisa maud

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Re: Missing child of George and Emily James (1885-1911)
« Reply #9 on: Monday 01 January 18 12:14 GMT (UK) »
I do know that sometimes if a child died almost immediately after birth it is not registered as a birth but only a death, but saying that it is after 1875 when I believe all should have been registered

The banns have been altered to JANES at St George Bloomsbury, London

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Re: Missing child of George and Emily James (1885-1911)
« Reply #10 on: Monday 01 January 18 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Definitely enough time for another in Ireland.  There could even have been a non-surviving twin of John Leonard.

You don't seem to have the birth registration of Frank - for the record it seems to be Frank James mmn Leonard, Sep qtr 1894 West Ham.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing child of George and Emily James (1885-1911)
« Reply #11 on: Monday 01 January 18 12:21 GMT (UK) »
only 1 baptism found

Harold JANES
St Stephens Walworth
born 25/11/1891
bapt 24/01/1892
father George Staff Sargent
mother Emily
of 46 Holmby/Holmly Street

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Missing child of George and Emily James (1885-1911)
« Reply #12 on: Monday 01 January 18 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Louisa and avm, it seems this child will have to remain a mystery for now.  I checked Georges service record and other than a sort time in Egypt his service was all deemed 'at home'.
James -Victoria, Australia originally from Keynsham, Somerset.
Heale/Hale - Keynsham, Somerset
Vincent - Illogan/Redruth, Cornwall.  Moved to Sculcoates, Yorkshire; Grass Valley, California; Timaru, New Zealand and Victoria, Australia.
Williams somewhere in Wales - he kept moving
Ellis - Anglesey

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Re: Missing child of George and Emily James (1885-1911)
« Reply #13 on: Monday 01 January 18 22:46 GMT (UK) »
It's always possible that they incorrectly put a stillbirth on the census, some people even named their dead children on the census (nice for some!).

What about a pre-marriage child? I've got one that added her illegitimate first child to the number of children of her marriage. It should be noted, however, that her estranged husband in a different household did not!

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Re: Missing child of George and Emily James (1885-1911)
« Reply #14 on: Monday 01 January 18 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Interesting thoughts Ayashi.  In the 1881 census she was a servant in London so anything is possible.  I guess I may never be able to prove this child.  One of the joys of family history, chasing the Unknown.
James -Victoria, Australia originally from Keynsham, Somerset.
Heale/Hale - Keynsham, Somerset
Vincent - Illogan/Redruth, Cornwall.  Moved to Sculcoates, Yorkshire; Grass Valley, California; Timaru, New Zealand and Victoria, Australia.
Williams somewhere in Wales - he kept moving
Ellis - Anglesey

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