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Offline Mark Harris

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The Maltese Connection
« on: Tuesday 02 January 18 17:59 GMT (UK) »
I have found a relative who cites her place of birth on 1861 and 1871 census as Malta! 1834. A Mary Richardson.
She had a son here in England in 1853, William Joseph Edgar Newman, Sculcoates (Hull). GRO confirms maiden name for Williams mother as Richardson, Mary on the census forms. I can't find trace of her marriage to a Newman here in England either.
William, her son, appears on 1871 census in Bristol listed as son to Mary Simpson and five new Simpson kids. Presumably determined to find his mum now he is 18. So I presume her first husband died in Malta, Crimean War? She came back to Hull, gave birth to William and left him with his/her grandparents. She then went to Plymouth and married a William Simpson in 1856. She named one of her children Maria, a nod to her mother perhaps?
Its a good story but I would like to track her Maltese roots and first marriage, presumably a serving soldier/sailor in the Victorian services in the Crimea.
Whats it like trying to track Maltese relatives, can anyone give me a pointer or two. I think I've found a lot but the Malta connection has me stumped.

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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
in Stirlingshire, Roxburghshire; Bucks; Devon; Somerset; Northumberland; Carmarthenshire; Glamorgan

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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:08 GMT (UK) »
when WAS she born?   edit..... 1834  ?
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:14 GMT (UK) »
baptism states mother as Elizabeth?

First name(s)   William Joseph Edgar
Last name   Newman
Birth year   -
Baptism year   1854
Baptism date   25 Jan 1854
Baptism place   Drypool, St Andrew
Denomination   Anglican
Father's first name(s)   William    private 28th regiment
Mother's first name(s)   Elizabeth
Residence   Drypool
County   Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country   England
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:18 GMT (UK) »
1834 I,m sure

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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:54 GMT (UK) »
there is this birth

First name(s)   Elizabeth M
Last name   Newman
Year range   1851
Place   Manchester
Country   England
Regiment   28th Foot
Record source   GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
Volume   1028
Page   9
Record set   British Nationals Armed Forces Births 1761-2005


which corresponds to


First name(s)   Elizabeth Mary
Last name   Newman
Gender   Female
Birth year   1851
Birth place   Manc'R
Baptism year   1851
Baptism date   11 May 1851
Residence   Manchester, Lancashire, England
Place   Manchester
County   Lancashire
Country   England
Father's first name(s)   John William
Father's last name   Newman
Mother's first name(s)   Mary
Mother's last name   Newman
Record set   England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

looking at the original image of the census below.....Mary was born in MALTA not MALTON.

1851 census
Crowther Street, Manchester, Salford, Lancashire, England

Mary   Newman   Head   Married   Female   20   1831   Tailoress   Malton, Yorkshire, England   
Elizabeth   Newman   Daughter   -   Female   0   1851   -   Salford, England
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 18:59 GMT (UK) »
First name(s)   John
Last name   Newman
Name as transcribed   John
Year   1851
Service number   2217
Rank   Private
Regiment or unit   28th (The North Gloucestershire) Regiment Of Foot
Period   01/01/1851-31/03/1851
Location   Manchester
The National Archives reference   WO12/4457
Record set   British Army, Worldwide Index 1851
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
GRO records confirm Elizabeths mothers maiden name as Richardson.
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: The Maltese Connection
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 19:26 GMT (UK) »

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:    
NEWMAN, ANN       RICHARDSON     
GRO Reference: 1849  M Quarter in ST IVES  Volume 14  Page 245   Order
NEWMAN, ELIZA       RICHARDSON     
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in ST IVES  Volume 14  Page 229



First name(s)   JOHN WILLIAM
Last name   NEWMAN
Marriage quarter   4
Marriage year   1849
Registration month   -
MarriageFinder™   JOHN WILLIAM NEWMAN married one of these people
Mary Richardson, Elizabeth Bazeley, Sarah Hick, Ann Hearn
District   East Stonehouse
District number   -
County   Devon
Country   England
Volume   9
Volume as transcribed   9
Page number   407
Record set   England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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