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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat. This is a brilliant site full of really, really helpful folk. May I suggest that you break down your research needs into small parcels that you can post to different boards (such as suggested by Ruskie).

There could well be a merchant seaman connection if your ancestor was from an east coast port?

Have you used the Familytreedna and gedmatch resources? They are free for some DNA results and the instructions on how to upload them are on each site.

It might be rather difficult for any Swedish "connections" if they were unaware of a "free spirit' ancestor!! Not all approaches are welcomed.



Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:31 GMT (UK) »
"Not really sure how much detail we're supposed to give" - as much as possible is always the answer!

I still can't see anywhere on here that you have put who she married!
What was her married name? Who was her husband? Where were they married?
Do you have the actual certificate?
Who were the witnesses?

All these details help to try and find  out who she was.

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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Could you please tell us the names and birth dates (or years if you do not know the exact date) of all of Mary Ann's children?

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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

Who did Mary Ann Palmer marry and where.

Where does she give as her place of birth on census and where was she living after she married.

Rosie

Good question - if there was a place of birth, my mother has never mentioned it, though she was definately on the 1891 census, and possibly 1881 as the housemaid. I am relatively new to all this, I'll question my mother further, I'll assume if it's listed it will be somewhere in the east end of London.

She married a Richard Jones in 1889 in I think either Whitechapel or Shoreditch.

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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:40 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the marriage registration  :)
Marriage June qtr 1889   
Jones    Richard       
Palmer    Mary Ann       
Mile End reg district    1c   794

St Paul, Bow Common 22 Apr 1889
Richard was 26 and Mary Ann 22 - both of 12 Lee Street
Richards father was Richard Jones occ labourer
Mary Anns was as you said Peter Palmer occ Labourer
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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Peter Palmer was a labourer, and it does not say that he is deceased?

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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Hello and welcome.

I found that marriage but discounted it as she is 22 yrs and her father is not shown as deceased.  :)

We can start looking now. As you will have gathered we love a mystery.

Sorry we crossed.
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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for all your replies, I can see this is going to be a very helpful board!

"Not really sure how much detail we're supposed to give" - as much as possible is always the answer!

I still can't see anywhere on here that you have put who she married!
What was her married name? Who was her husband? Where were they married?
Do you have the actual certificate?
Who were the witnesses?

All these details help to try and find out who she was.

Yes, my mother has a copy of the original marriage certificate of Mary Ann Palmer and Richard Jones in 1889, one of the few certain records of her.
I'll need to check the exact place and witness names and get back to you, but east end of London for sure.
Her children were born in 1890 (Richard) 1892 (Mary) 1894 (Anna Marie) and 1896 (Ettie)

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Re: Mary Ann Palmer
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 02 January 18 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Marriage at  Paul, Bow Common, 22nd April 1889, she was 22 and Richard 26, both of 12 Lee Street, both made their marks, and witnesses were Benjamin Moneypenny (?) and Esther Juggins (?).

How many Mary Palmers are there marrying Richard Jones?