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Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« on: Wednesday 03 January 18 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Could someone please advise on the following,
Was there a reason why children born in Ireland in the 1800s were baptised in Scotland.

I have a number of descendants born in Ireland over a few decades in the 1800s but most were baptised in Scotland.

They all lived in Ireland until their deaths.

thank-you

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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 09:46 GMT (UK) »
What is the source of their baptisms and what evidence is there that this is your family   :-\
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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Folk certainly used to cross the Sheugh to Scotland for communion. Could it be something to do with the C of I not recognising Presbyterian or RC christenenings which affected inheritance for example. Conversely there were penal laws in Scotland against Episcopalians.

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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Could someone please advise on the following,
Was there a reason why children born in Ireland in the 1800s were baptised in Scotland.
I have a number of descendants born in Ireland over a few decades in the 1800s but most were baptised in Scotland.
They all lived in Ireland until their deaths.
thank-you

I think you might mean relatives rather than descendants. Could you provide more detail? religion? which 2 decades? (1800s is a bit too vague). Were the children baptised at the same time (or in several batches) or were they all supposed to be infants at the time?
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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 January 18 00:05 GMT (UK) »
I have the opposite situation, with children being born and baptised in Ireland but the family living in Scotland.

My 3x great grandparents were Thomas McCluskey and Bridget Gorman. Thomas was from Paisley but Bridget was from County Mayo. They were married in Paisley and had the following children:

George McCluskey
M
26 May 1875
Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland


Thomas McCluskey
M
09 Sep 1876
Newport, Mayo, Ireland



James McCluskey
M
29 Sep 1880
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland



Patrick McCluskey
M
04 Mar 1882
Newport, Mayo, Ireland


Julia McCluskey
F
24 Apr 1887
Shettleston, Lanarkshire, Scotland


As you can see, two were born in County Mayo and the rest in Scotland. They are living in Scotland in all relevant censuses as well.
Knighton in Huntingdonshire and Northamptonshire
Tweedie in Lanarkshire and Co. Down
Rodgers in Durham and Co. Monaghan
McMillan in Lanarkshire and Argyllshire

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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 January 18 01:29 GMT (UK) »
The only requirement for a baby to be born in a certain place is the presence of the baby's mother.  :D

One of my Irish families was similar to JAKnighton's, post #4.
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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 January 18 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Not unusual for a woman to go home among her own folk to give birth!

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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 January 18 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Not unusual for a woman to go home among her own folk to give birth!
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Exactly! Looking at the actual birth certificates quickly clears up the situation- not a family moving back and forth but mither going back to Ireland for the child's birth (and child likely baptised quite soon after birth as was the R.C. custom-

Thomas McCluskey  09 Sep 1876  Newport, Mayo, Ireland
Residence given as Paisley but child born Grove Cottage (Newport district) with a Mary Gorman present at birth-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03040/2114793.pdf

Patrick McCluskey  04 Mar 1882  Newport, Mayo, Ireland
Brother born Newport Workhouse and residence given as Glasgow-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02789/2024132.pdf
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Re: Baptisms in Ireland / Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 January 18 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Probably a steamer from the Clyde to Donegal/Mayo?

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