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Lobeck family burials
« on: Wednesday 03 January 18 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Looking for any signs of any where a Lobeck may be buried I found only 2 .
Carl Lobeck was buried in a common grave at Falmouth Municipal Cemetery 7/10/1871 at 11 weeks old . It was in Unconsecrated ground .
However Annie Lobeck was buried in a common grave 11/5/1878 in the same Cemetery this time in Consecrated ground .
Who decided what ground you were buried in, was it because of your religion or cost . Again why a common grave again was it cost? There was talk there father known as Karl Lobeck  may have been Jewish although he may have moved away from this religion later in life. He came from Memel in Prussia also stated as Luhmansdorf in Pommerania. 99% of all Lobecks in the Uk are related to this man who lived originally in Cornwall and later in Monmouthshire but I cannot find any other burials.
Any leads on other burials .

Thanks Roy





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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 09:52 GMT (UK) »
There are only 2 Lobeck deaths registered between 1850 and 1900 (according to FreeBMD).
And you have both of them :D

From 1900 until 1950, there are 6 deaths registered in Cardiff and East Glamorganshire, and another 2 in St Pancras (London) with another in Islington.

Presumably the infant wasn't christened, and therefore wouldn't have been buried in consecrated ground.
Also it was highly unusual to dig a separate grave for an infant death - they are normally buried in a convenient, open, grave?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 16:14 GMT (UK) »


From 1900 until 1950, there are 6 deaths registered in Cardiff and East Glamorganshire, and another 2 in St Pancras (London) with another in Islington.

Where can I find where these are buried , I haven't been able to find them .

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 16:28 GMT (UK) »
For London, you need to read this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=403485.27

For Cardiff:
The Glamorgan Family History Society have produced a set of microfiche containing Monumental Inscriptions for the following burial grounds :-

    St. John the Baptist
    Adamsdown Cemetery
    Tabernacle Welsh Baptist Church


But essentially you need to find a Burial record in a Parish Register.
The problem lies in finding which parish?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Did Carl have any other sons?  Or were all his descendents actually via daughters and thus not Lobecks?

Is this the family?
1871
Swanpool Street Falmouth
Carl Lobeck 35 ship chandler bn Prussia
Mary 36 bn Shireton Monmouthshire
Henrietta 4 bn Falmouth
Jane 1 bn Falmouth
Rachel Benjamin 15 sister in law bn Shireton Monmouthshire

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Answering my own question

Here is the family in 1881

Falmouth
Carl Lobeck 44 Merchant bn Prussia  English Naturalized Subject
Mary 37 bn Falmouth
daughter (cant read) 11
Carl 9
Ernest 8
Lily 6
Ida 5
Wilhelm 2 mths

so there were sons who would have died as Lobeck

Looks like he might have married a second Mary if the ages and pob are correct.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 18:28 GMT (UK) »
On the other hand, maybe not!

1891
Alfred Str , St Woollos, Monmouthshire
Chas Lobeck 53 Commision agent
Mary 47 bn Monmouthshire Chepstow
Lilly 16 bn Falmouth
Ida 14 bn Falmouth
Willy 11 bn Falmouth
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 18:30 GMT (UK) »
He died in Wales

Death
Jun 1923
Cardiff
11a 412
Carl E Lobeck
age 84
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Lobeck family burials
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that , on free BMD all the Lobecks births and deaths are all descended from Karl born Prussia so it kind of makes things easy as it's only one family on there .

Just would be so nice to try and find a headstone or grave somewhere.

Thanks All . Roy