Can't find family on census in East London

[jamie300]

I am trying to trace the family of Jessie Mills b 1878 in Whitechapel. A search on GRO suggests her mother's maiden name is Bray.

She married George Herbert Gaff in Poplar in 1900 and from the banns I can find the following:

Marriage Date: 02/12/1900
Father: George Mills (Occupation: Barman)
Spouse: George Herbert Gaff
Witnesses: George Mills, Florence Mills (wife? sister?)

However I can't find Jessie and her father George Mills on any census (e.g. 1881, 1891). A census result for this family would be great as I would be able too see where the parents were born and how long they'd been married. The only George Mills marrying a Bray I can find is George Partridge Mills and it can't be him because he died in 1894.

Any suggestions would be great please.

[Bee]

Hi

1881 census from familysearch has a possible entry but transcribed as MILES
George 28
Maria 33
Florence 5
Jessie 3

Maybe yours, maybe not

Bee

[rosie99]

Welcome to rootschat

If the Jessie with mmn Bray is your Jessie then there is this other possible sibling

MILLS, SUSANNAH  ELIZABETH  mmn    BRAY     
1880  Dec Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 345

Possible family in 1881 transcribed as Hills image is Mills
RG11/444 f57 p26

George 29 occ Waiter bn London, Middlesex
Jane 29 bn Langford, Devon
Florence 6
George 4
Jessie 2
Susanna 5 months
/
Daniel Lewin Lodger 21 bn Germany

children all born Middlesex, London
Living 21 Mount Street, Whitechapel

[rosie99]

Birth registrations for other children  on the 1881 census

MILLS, FLORENCE  JANE     mmn BRAY     
1875  June Quarter
HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 658

MILLS, GEORGE  WILLIAM     mmn BRAY     
1876  Dec Quarter
HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 756   - Occasional Copy:
 

[rosie99]

You are right about the marriage

Marriage June qtr 1874   
Bray    Jane       
MILLS  George Partridge       
Pancras    1b   34

I assume that you are discounting him because Jessies marriage does not mention he has died.  This is a question that would not normally be asked when the couple married, they would just be asked their fathers names and occupations

ADDED the marriage image is online.  The witnesses were Florence Mills and George Mills, presumably her brother & sister

[jamie300]

Thank you both this is a great help

I am particularly interested in this connection because George and Jessie's daughter married a man whose mother was also called Bray, so I'd like to see if they were related and how the families might have known each other through where they lived or worked.

[jamie300]

You are right about the marriage

Marriage June qtr 1874   
Bray    Jane       
MILLS  George Partridge       
Pancras    1b   34

I assume that you are discounting him because Jessies marriage does not mention he has died.  This is a question that would not normally be asked when the couple married, they would just be asked their fathers names and occupations

ADDED the marriage image is online.  The witnesses were Florence Mills and George Mills, presumably her brother & sister

I had discounted him because I assumed the George Mills as witness to the 1900 marriage was Jessie's father, and hadn't thought it might be her brother.

Interestingly the fathers in the 1874 marriage are both noted as being deceased, but good to know this isn't often noted.

[rosie99]

Do come back to us if you need any more help. 

Rosie

[Milliepede]

MILLS, SUSANNAH  ELIZABETH  mmn    BRAY     
1880  Dec Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 345

Just for info Susannah may have died before 1891.  There is a death in Dec 1884 of a 4 year old Susannah Elizabeth Mills.