Author Topic: John Pettigrew m. Agnes Gray, 1863, Bangor.  (Read 2519 times)

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Re: John Pettigrew m. Agnes Gray, 1863, Bangor.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Am checking a few more sources before posting what I found and possibilities  ;)
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Re: John Pettigrew m. Agnes Gray, 1863, Bangor.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 06 January 18 13:42 GMT (UK) »
I'm not yet convinced that Daniel Pettigrew of Belfast is the same as your Bangor family.

Using newspaper reports, etc. it would seem they family were Presbyterian and originally connected to Moneyrea (burials there up to 1882). Here's a brief outline-
Thomas Pettigrew (c1791-1 Mar.1882 at 15 Percy St)
     1.   Daniel Pettigrew (c1817-6 Oct.1882 at 15 Percy St) m. Isabella (d.7 Apr.1870 at 87 Hanover St.)
          a.   Eliza Jane Pettigrew (d.Nov.1863 at Boundary St.), eld. dau.
          b.   Robert Brown Pettigrew (c1846-20 Aug.1864 at 88 Old Lodge Rd.)
          c.   Thomas Pettigrew (c1850-25 May 1876 at 87 Hanover St)

Daniel had an aunt-
Belfast Newsletter, 26 May 1871: WALLACE- May 25, at 87, Hanover Street, Belfast, the residence of her nephew, Mr. Daniel Pettigrew, Elizabeth, relict of the late Robert Wallace, of Magherascouse, aged 82 years. Her remains will be removed for interment …
and his father's obituary says-
Belfast Telegraph, 11 Mar.1882: ln our obituary column the death is announced of Mr. Thomas Pettigrew, who was born in the townland of Tollyguvah*, County Down, the year 1791. The deceased was, understand, the lost member...
* possibly Tullygarvan, Comber Parish?
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Re: John Pettigrew m. Agnes Gray, 1863, Bangor.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 06 January 18 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Now your Pettigrews-

John Pettigrew (d.bef.1911), son of Thomas, m.1 ___; m.2 (27 June 1863 COI, Bangor) Agnes Gray (c1832/6-20 June 1911)
1852- publican, Quay St.
1864, 1865, 1870- carter, Quay St.
1872- carter. 1874- farmer
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Bangor/Perspect_Road/1253250
1906- contractor
1911- widow Agnes with daughter Agnes Carson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05399/4507870.pdf
1. Charlotte Pettigrew (22 May 1865)- see below
2. Thomas James Pettigrew (14 Feb.1867-2 Jan.1945 Bangor).
Pettigrew Thomas James of 39 Bloomfield Road Bangor county Down retired butler died 2 January 1945 at the Cottage Hospital Bangor Administration (with Will) Belfast 4 December [1947] to Myrtle Carson spinster. Effects £1795 12s. 3d.
3. William John Pettigrew (8 Apr.1869)
4. Agnes Pettigrew (6 Sept.1872) m.(4 July 1906) George Carson
5. Daniel Pettigrew (12 July 1874)

Charlotte Pettigrew (22 May 1865) m.(2 Mar.1890) William Marshall (c1856-16 Feb.1896 Down Asylum, Downpatrick); m.(28 Aug.1899 Belfast) Francis “Frank” McConkey, carpenter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03577/2318596.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10690/5896407.pdf
1895- William Marshall, van driver. 1896- bread server/baker
Belfast Newsletter, 24 Jan.1896, page 6: Committal of a Lunatic in Bangor. On the 22nd inst. William Marshall, of Crosby Street Bangor, was committed as a dangerous lunatic to the Downpatrick Asylum by Mr. William White, J.P., and Mr. Hugh Ferguson, J.P.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05910/4677485.pdf (general paralysis [of the insane] i.e. syphilis)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10385/5781520.pdf (she’s listed as Charlotte Marshall, spinster, 30 Cameron St. Belfast, father John Marshall, contractor). In 1901 directory Cameron St. numbers only go up to 19. In 1907 directory the even numbers still only go up to 10.
1. Agnes Eveline Marshall (27 Apr.1895 at Crosby St., Bangor-14 Feb.1896 Crosby St.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02221/1837976.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05910/4677708.pdf
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Re: John Pettigrew m. Agnes Gray, 1863, Bangor.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Wow.  Thanks for all that you've done.  As you noted, Charlotte, daughter of John and Agnes Pettigrew, m. Frank McConkey.  I did not know it was a second marriage for her.  She was still alive in 1911, as the census shows her, Frank, and their children living at 63 Ballymagee Street, Bangor.  The children then were William John 10, Thomas James 8, and George 6.

Back to Daniel Pettigrew of Belfast, d. 1882, son of Thomas d. 1882.  Just to be super clear, this Daniel would be John's brother, if we can prove that Thomas, d. 1882, was John's father.  In addition, John of Bangor had a son also named Daniel, b. 12 July 1874 in Bangor, d. 20 Mar 1952 in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

If this Thomas was indeed John's father, then I could add another couple generations of ancestors on the family tree.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/surnames.pettigrew/533.1/mb.ashx

The pertinent part is:
Daniel Petticrew of Tullygirvan m. Sarah Gray.
Children:
Archibald of Belfast m. Jane Murray
Elizabeth m. Robert Wallace of Marascouse
Thomas of Ravarah m. Eleanor McCreary. Went to Scotland.

More about that book, Ulster Pedigrees:
http://orrnamestudy.com/ulsterpedigree.htm

As you noted, the 1871 BNL death notice for Elizabeth Wallace confirms that Daniel of Belfast was her nephew.  His dad Thomas, however, didn't die in Scotland, but at son Daniel's home in Belfast in 1882.

The big hurdle still remains proving that Thomas of Belfast (also of Tullygirvan) was father of John of Bangor.  The two Thomas-Daniel name pairs certainly suggest that, but I can't yet find the documentation to confirm my speculation.

Your help has been terrific.  Thank you so much for all the new info you have uncovered.
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Re: John Pettigrew m. Agnes Gray, 1863, Bangor.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Daniel Pettigrew of Tullygarvan or -girvan (Comber) and his wife Sarah Gray were my 4 x great-grandparents. I'm descended from their son Archibald Pettigrew and his wife Jane Murray. Archibald was a joiner in Belfast, and several of the male Pettigrews seem to have been joiners or millwrights. The name was originally Petticrew.

Archibald and Jane's youngest daughter Agnes was born in about 1832. Shortly afterwards her father must have died because Jane took the children over to Scotland and in 1838 she married her 2nd husband Walter Leggat in Dumfries. They moved to Hawick, where descendants lived until fairly recently. Jane died, a widow, in the poorhouse in Jedburgh and her death-certificate gives her parents as William Murray, stonemason, and Nancy Howat.

There have been  (and are) quite a few Daniel Pettigrews, on both sides of the sectarian divide. In my family, the name Daniel goes back to my 6 x gt.grandparents James Orr of Munlough and Jane Campbell. Their son Daniel Orr (was Jane Campbell's father a Donald or Daniel?) married Elizabeth Chalmers of Drumbo. Their daughter Isabella Orr married Archibald Petticrew of Ballyknockan (Saintfield). They were the parents of Daniel Pettigrew or -crew who married Sarah Gray. Gray was a common surname in the Bangor area.

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