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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Is she the lady who married Edward Gamble, 6th January 1855, Grantham?
Mary Swain, full age, Spinster, residence Grantham, father William Swain, Labourer

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 17:30 GMT (UK) »
born in Branston:
Mary 1816 - 1818
Ann 1818 - 1818
John 1820 - 1821

Deaths - presumably burial dates - provided by FamilySearch? (they often do with infants)
But are burials for Branston online? None after 1812 listed on findmypast
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-images/leicestershire-parish-records-browse?parish=branston

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 03 January 18 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jonw65,

The Mary you have found looks very much like it could be Mary Swain from William and Elenaor.

In the 1861 census William Swain's name has changed to William Gamble.

In 1871 Edward Gamble is married to a margaret Gramble so I looked for Mary's death and found one in 1863 aged 41 which could add up.

All the dates I have for the infants are from Family search, I have been to the church and looked around the grave yard and found nothing, only Swain's that had the farm just out side the village (Branston Lodge, Swain's Lodge, Terrace Lodge) the name changed a lot.

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #21 on: Monday 05 February 18 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello and once again I am stumped.

I put a post on not so long ago asking for help to find William and Eleanor Swain.

Well today i FOUND William finally on the 1840 census, with a new wife Elizabeth and one of his Daughters Elizabeth. On Williams and Elizabeth Wedding document there is a Thomas Keal, Elizabeth Swain married Thomas's Son Samuel.

So the next problem I have is this.

William dies in 1857, I have found this out in the local paper archives.

But when I search for a death there is nothing, but then I find a Burial for a John William Swain on the same date but again cant find it on Ancestry or FindMyPast.

I also can't find anything out about William and Elizabeth's children who are Sarah Swain born 1848 Grantham. and Alfred Swain born 1854 (apart from I think he married Eliza Coulson).

Please help me.  ;D

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 08:44 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Swain - Grantham Union Registration District:
March quarter 1848 - mother's maiden name Starbuck
December quartr 1848 - mother's maiden name Dickenson

Alfred Swain - Grantham Union Registration District:
December quarter 1852 - mother's maiden name Starbuck

I cannot see any marriage entry for Swain/Starbuck - September quarter 1837-December quarter 1852.

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Lincolnshire parish Burials on F M P.  Also on  NBI only additional info - Denomination Anglican

Burial image from register states John William Swain, abode Sand pit lane, Grantham, age 76

the index reads:

John Swain
Birth year   1781
Burial place   Grantham, St Wulfram
Father's name William (this is not included on original image)
Age   76
Burial date   06 Apr 1857
Church   St Wulfram
Source: Lincolnshire Archives, parish burials

Sand Pit Lane is the address of William/Elizabeth with dau Sarah and step dau Mary A Hancock in 1851 so think it is possibly your man? William was 66 in 1851, but he did have a wife in her 30's so maybe lost a few years.

Marriage in 1840 Grantham she married as Hancock as likely widowed.

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Well done  :)

Marriage at St Wulfram, Grantham - 20 September 1840
William Swain, full age, widower of Grantham.  Father:  William, Labourer
Elizabeth Hancock, full age, widow of Grantham.  Father:  William Starbrook, Labourer

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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth, daughter of William (Labourer) and Elizabeth Starbuck of Harston - baptised at Harston on 19 March 1817.

Added:

There are a number of siblings baptised at Harston from 1808. Can't readily see a marriage for William and Elizabeth.
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Re: Swain family in Leicestershire and Lincolnshire
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 06 February 18 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Source: Lincolnshire Burials F M P
Sarah Swain age 4
Abode: Sand pit lane, Grantham
Birth year   1848
Burial place Grantham, St Wulfram
Father   William
Burial date   12 Sep 1852
Church   St Wulfram

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall