John Henry Hill born 1757

[Taniwha37]

Haydock Hill a timber merchant in Craven Street, London had 8 sons. All surviving sons became merchants. I have traced the family trees of each branch except one.
John Henry Hill baptized March 29th in 1757 at St Martin in the Fields appeared as a legatee in his grandmother Mary Bosquet's will in 1781. He appeared in his mother Elizabeth Hill's will in 1820 and a daughter Elizabeth is mentioned.
One of his brothers James was a merchant in St Petersburg between 1783 and 1795.
Could John Henry have been a merchant abroad somewhere else which could explain his disappearance and not appearing in any wills of his brothers and sisters?
If he had a family, they may be looking still for his origins in London?
Any guesses would be welcome
Ted Hill

[amondg]

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John Hill son of Haydock and Elizabeth baptized 18 April 1757 St Martin in the Fields.

From his mothers will the daughter is Elizabeth Sophia Hill.

John may have had a falling out with the family as his daughter received 50 pounds whereas all other
grandchildren and god children received at least 100 pounds, some much greater amounts.

[Taniwha37]

Dear Amondg,

Hadn't thought of a falling out. Should have. Eighty years later my Hill ancestor Philip Blundell Hill, eldest son of John Hill Lyme Regis, due to inherit father's Russia Merchant business. Instead, he married a shoemaker's daughter in Devon. He received an annuity of £50 a year.

Will try and trace Elizabeth Sophia the daughter.

Regards

Ted Hill

[Drosybont]

Hello Ted,

Haydock Hill is one of my ancestors too.  I have only just begun to go back into the 18th century with the Hills, so I'm afraid I can't suggest what might have happened to John Henry Hill. 

Prompted by this, though, I have had a closer look at what I have on the Bosquets and realised that I may have an error, oops, off to see if I can sort it out.

Drosybont

[Taniwha37]

Hi Drosybont,

Have plenty on the Bosquets back in to France
Happy to help with your problem
Ted

[Drosybont]

Thanks, Ted.  I think I've resolved the problem.  I'll get back to you about the Bosquets when I've done a bit more work on what I've got.  Of the Hills, my ancestor is John Hill Lyme Regis's brother Henry - if you're looking for anything on those siblings or Henry's descendants, let me know.

Drosybont

[Taniwha37]

Dear Drosybont,
I assume you are a Todd or Westmacott descendant.
I would like to check up on my Henry branch soon but can I check first with what children he had? I believe I have 12 children ending with Frances in 1828, Alfred Octavius in 1835 and Charles James ? in 1842. Do I have this correct?
Regards
Ted Hill
P.S. I have just discovered that Nicolas Bosquet appears to have had two brothers Daniel & Pierre.

[Drosybont]

Hi Ted,

Yes, my descent is through the Westmacotts and the Todds.  And yes, I too think Henry Hill and Sarah Whishaw had 12 children:

James b 1815 d 1840?
Anne b 1817 d 1892
Emily b 1818 d 1910
Henry b 1820 d?
William b 1822 d 1847
Edward b 1824 d 1878
Alexander b 1826 d?
Frances b 1828 d 1900
Frederick b 1830 d 1875
Nicholas Stanton b 1832 d 1918
Alfred Octavius b 1835 d 1870
Charles James b 1842 d 1815

Not sure that the year of death I have for James is correct:  I found it in a tree online quite a while ago and haven't been able to find a record to confirm it yet.  I have some details for Henry and Alexander eg marriages, child/children, but haven't been able to find their deaths yet despite plenty of searching.

I got distracted from the Bosquets because some South Wales Chartist research I'm involved in got active again after a lull.  What I could see looked very interesting and I will get back to them when I can but it may not be for a while.

Best wishes,

Drosybont

[Taniwha37]

Dear Drosybont,

I have info for Alexander. He was buried at Riga on Oct 12th, 1875.

Do you have much on Henry. Some years ago I had notes saying Henry separated from Eliza Carter and a rumour that he went to Australia. I have info which looks like confirmation of his getting to Victoria Australia but returning as a retired merchant in Lewisham in 1881 Census.

Regards

Ted