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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 05 January 18 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Anfield burial registers etc are held at the Liverpool Archives where they are on film. They have also been filmed and are available on Family Search.

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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 January 18 13:37 GMT (UK) »
thanks, I do have the order for the original grave purchase(1891) when his wife died and the order for the subsequent burial (1892) of John's Mum, plus both burial register entries which have been digitised and available on FS.
John didn't die till 1929 though and those records are not yet digitised so are only available if I order the film into an FHC, which is an option I may look at as I am too far away to nip to the Liverpool Archives (its a 600 mile round trip for me).
I have (as heywood suggested) emailed the Cemeteries dept to enquire if they are able to tell me of any further burials in this grave. Will see what they say if/when they reply.

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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 January 18 13:47 GMT (UK) »
How strange that the baptism isn't coming up. I have looked - there donít seem to be any missing pages, yet it shows on the LHP site. :-\
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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 January 18 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Kind of you to look, I looked twice and checked behind the sofa too!

As far as I know, the images on Anc* are the original register and, as you say, they run in both page and entry sequence without any gaps so it is odd.
Have failed at contacting them though, so I can't query it.

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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 January 18 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Extra thanks to heywood, the cemeteries dept answered my query and has given me the grave order numbers for 5 burials in this plot, They are not able to tell me who the people were, that has to be cross checked with documents held by the Archives.
1 and 3 were the ones I already knew about and have the records for.
1.       38513
2.       38539 (aged 6 years)
3.       39094
4.       48492
5.       52888
I have been able to identify no2 by checking the grave order images on Family Search, this was a 6 year old nephew of John Joseph, who died in 1891.

4 and 5 are post 1900 and therefore not available on Family Search.

I emailed Liverpool Archives asking if they can help and my query has been passed to the research officer, looks like its going to cost me £15, but I am waiting for the research person to confirm that it can be done and what the cost will be.

I'll be extremely peeved if I fork out £15 and find its two people unrelated to our tree!  but that wont be  the Archives fault, I'm not blaming them as the cost isn't as horrendous as some archives and at least I will know one way or another.

Fingers crossed that I get a result!

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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 11 January 18 06:33 GMT (UK) »
I don't think Liverpool History Projects offer a service any more although their site and databases still exist. Most of the Liverpool RC records are now available on Ancestry.


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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 11 January 18 14:13 GMT (UK) »
baptism

Name:   Joannis J McKoen
Age:   0
Birth Date:   24 Dec 1862
Baptism Date:   4 Jan 1863
Baptism Place:   St Anthony's, Lancashire, England
Father:   Patricu McKoen
Mother:   Margh Farrell

godparents Edward & Mary Daly

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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 11 January 18 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Possible for 1901

21 Canning Place
H/H of a Joseph Shipman and his family, he a Publican
John McKeon 39 widower Living on Means bn Ireland

RG13 3420 44 30

more likely to be this one?

Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
NAME:    John Joseph McKeon
BIRTH:    27 Feb 1863
BAPTISM:    2 Mar 1863 - Dublin, Ireland
RESIDENCE:    111 King St

edit - though maybe not as census says born Belfast

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Re: John Joseph McKeon 1901 census, Liverpool area, help please
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 11 January 18 22:44 GMT (UK) »
baptism

Name:   Joannis J McKoen
Age:   0
Birth Date:   24 Dec 1862
Baptism Date:   4 Jan 1863
Baptism Place:   St Anthony's, Lancashire, England
Father:   Patricu McKoen
Mother:   Margh Farrell

godparents Edward & Mary Daly

Thanks for looking. Yes, that is the right record, I have the image from the parish register for St Anthony's

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