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Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« on: Friday 05 January 18 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am looking for a 'possible' marriage between Thomas Seager and Elizabeth Ann Phillips (previously Ellis) between 1896 & 1901. She was the widow of Henry Phillips.
In the 1901 the surname is listed as Sigger.
I have tried Find my Past and Ancestry with no results. As I live too far away to go to the local or Chelmsford R O's might someone have an idea of how I could progress from here please?

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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 January 18 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Why do we have the window 1896 to 1901?
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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 January 18 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Why do we have the window 1896 to 1901?

1901  :-\  :-\
William G Philips - stepson age 5
Rose May Sigger daughter age 2

Do you have Rose's birth certificate  :-\
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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 January 18 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Could be her baptism at Barking, 11 January 1899
born Dec 23
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XK8W-C32

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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 January 18 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Is this Elizabeths first marriage
Marriages Sep 1887 
Ellis    Elizabeth Ann       
Philips Henry       
Ongar RD    4a   325

also Henrys death  :-\
Death June qtr 1896 
Phillips    Henry   age  35   
Romford RD    4a   203
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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 January 18 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everybody.
Many Thanks for looking at and responding to my post.
Between you, you all have the correct information.
I didn't put everything you have found into my question as I did not want to
'overload' the post before knowing if they may be a response.
Elizabeth (b 1866/7 Dagenham) was married to Henry Phillips at Ongar 1887.
He died 1896 leaving her with 4 children. Hence the start of the 5 year window asked about by PaulineJ. Maybe I should have made it a 7 year window. I have the Baptism only of Rose May Seager January 1899. I have not found a GRO record. Thomas Seager and Elizabeth (no other surname) are shown as the parents.
There were 2 further children born to Elizabeth and Thomas Seager - Alice Louisa (b 1903 Barking) and Charles George (b 1906 Dagenham).
I cannot find a GRO marriage and maybe they did not marry at all but it may be possible that a Church wedding was not recorded or transcribed to the GRO, hence my appeal.
It is also a calculated 'guess' that any marriage would have been at Barking as that is where Rose May was baptise.
Any idea's of how to progress further would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 January 18 14:46 GMT (UK) »
There seems to be some confusion in 1911 about how long they had been married  ;)

Debra  :)

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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 January 18 14:53 GMT (UK) »

I cannot find a GRO marriage and maybe they did not marry at all but it may be possible that a Church wedding was not recorded or transcribed to the GRO, hence my appeal.


Have you tried searching the records on SEAX
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Re: Missing Marriage at Barking, Essex, UK
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 January 18 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Alice Louisa and Charles George both have mother's maiden name as Ellis via GRO.
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