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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #9 on: Friday 05 January 18 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Winstanley married Richard Hughes in 1868 Liverpool.
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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 January 18 19:23 GMT (UK) »
If I have the right address it is occupied by Henry Johnson and family in 1871 3819/109/12
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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 January 18 19:34 GMT (UK) »
We are trying to figure out if John is or is not as stated on a wedding certificate a watchmaker.  I found through the National Museum Liverpool under Horology:

Name   Winstanley John
Date   1868
Town   Liverpool
Directory   Gores
Street 1   17 Eaton Place, Breck Road
Town   Liverpool
Trade   Watchmaker

I was wondering how to check this out in the Gores directory for Liverpool

Thank you

You have found this entry in Gores, is that right?
Margaret gives her father as John, a watchmaker on her marriage and you are trying to connect this address with John?
It is confusing.
I can see one Margaret b abt 1852 with father John but she is still at home in 1871.
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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 January 18 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Think this is 1861 for Eaton Place -Edward Bull and family

1861 2715/43/32
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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #13 on: Friday 05 January 18 19:52 GMT (UK) »
1861 2728/49/9


Margaret Winstanley 11 yrs with father Thomas Winstanley, watchmaker , mother Margaret and siblings.
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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 06 January 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
the heart of Watchmaking in Lancashire at that time was in Prescot - and coincidentally there is a Margaret Winstanley born in Prescot 1849 - ties in with census record - so maybe they were from Prescot - although part of Liverpool now - it wasn't in 1868 period ..
Try contacting a member named Stephen Nulty - bit of an expert on Prescot genealogy - see if he has anything on John Winstanley ??
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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 January 18 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi garstonite,

Would Margaret give Liverpool as pob though if she was born Prescot?
The one I quote in 1861 has a father Thomas, watchmaker, born St Helens.

It would be good if Kiwi2011 could give us the marriage details - address and witnesses. It might help.
I am still not sure if Margaret was living in Eaton Place when she married or that is just the entry from Gores directory.
Hopefully she will be back soon.

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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Here is the info off the MC:

Richard Hughes, 21, bachelor, joiner. Residence: 19 Mullburry street(maybe)? Margaret Winstanley, 19, Spinster. Residence: 8 Guilford(maybe)? St. Groom father: John Hughes, Joiner. Brides fthr: James Winstanley, Watchmaker. Witness: Edward McGuffie & Sophie Hughes.

Here is the Horology link for Thomas from the museum:

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/wml/collections/horology/results.aspx?&name=thomas+winstanley&startyear=1840&endyear=1880&town=liverpool&trade=watchmaker&page=0

Will try to post the wedding cert.



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Re: John Winstanley - Watchmaker
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi kiwi2011,
In reply #2 you have Margaretís father as John. So we should be looking for a James, is that right?

Can I just say also that you cannot post a whole marriage certificate due to copyright, just a snippet.

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