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Offline polidor

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Lily Louise Collins
« on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Helping a friend-- ---my lot have come to a standstill !!

Lily Louise Collins--born 1901/2 Littlebourne
M. Edwin Harold Payne Sep. 1924 Littlebourne.

I have details of Marriage  and know the children of the marriage. What my friend is interested in is Lily's life before she wed.

I cannot find anything else apart from her marriage and her children. No life info before she wed.

Have been told her father may be named Frank. Also a possibility she was the niece of Walter and Eliza Smith also possible sister named Molly.

If anyone fancies a change of direction  from their own lot ?? i would welcome possible pointers.

poli  :)
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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:07 GMT (UK) »
No obvious birth reg in Kent area.

Only Louisa elsewhere. What does she give for parental info on marriage?
What names witness?
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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:07 GMT (UK) »
Nearest match...GRO entry has Lilian Louise Collins born 1902 Bridge MM Smith

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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:08 GMT (UK) »
What details of the marriage do you have?  The certificate should name her father and his occupation and state if she was a widow or spinster - how old was she when married?  She may have been economical with the truth. 

Do the childrens birth registrations have mothers maiden name Collins?  (Don't post the names if they are still alive)

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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Lily date of birth 13/12/1901
Edwin 27/7/1903 source 1939 register
Hope this helps
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Chapman. Kent/Liverpool 1900+
Linnett.Kent/liverpool 1900+
Button. Kent
Sawyer. Kent
Swain. Kent
Austin/en. Kent
Ellen. Kent
Harman. Kent/ norfolk

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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Nearest match...GRO entry has Lilian Louise Collins born 1902 Bridge MM Smith

Volume 02A  Page 875


Looks good - registration is Mar qtr 1902 so consistent with birth in Dec 1901.  Bridge is the right district for Littlebourne.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Her marriage is available on Findmypast father name just Frank no surname?
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Chapman. Kent/Liverpool 1900+
Linnett.Kent/liverpool 1900+
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Swain. Kent
Austin/en. Kent
Ellen. Kent
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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Her uncle Walter Smith married Eliza Cox, Dec qtr 1875 Thanet.

More details: 16 Oct 1875, St Nicholas at Wade

Walter Smith 25 bach lab otp son of George Smith lab
Eliza Cox 23 spinster dau otp of George Cox lab
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Lily Louise Collins
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Uncle Walter Smith was born in Stodmarsh (Bridge district) - his birth reg Mar qtr 1850 mmn Hogben.

From the censuses it looks like he had many sisters!

Clara c 1837
Louisa c1839
Rachel c1841
Sophia c 1852
Anne c1854

and a niece Emily c1860

Most of these dates look early to be in the frame for Lilian's mother, so perhaps he was in fact a great-uncle?

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)