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Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am tracing Mary ROSE born 1832 Croydon Surrey, first husband Francis GRIMSLEY, second husband Francis FAWLEY.
As Mary FAWLEY she boarded the Panmure with husband and daughter Emily bound for Australia. Unfortunately she died while at sea (off the coast of Brazil) on 19 June 1887. I have a copy of the passenger list which shows her death.

I was trying to find out if a death cert would have been registered, but the only record I have found is on Find My Past.  It shows a different birth year  :
Fawley Mary b1838   d1887  New South Wales Deaths 1788-1945    
Location : Marine, New South Wales, Australia

Would she have been buried at sea?
Do you think 'Marine' records a death at sea? If so, could someone look it up please?
If death registered can I order a copy cert?

Any advice gratefully received
Thanks

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Re: Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:50 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if this link might be of  help
http://guides.sl.nsw.gov.au/c.php?g=671850&p=4901945
Deaths at sea
From March 1856 the NSW Registry required masters and commanders of British and Colonial vessels arriving in Sydney to record deaths that occurred on the voyage.

The official record was filed by the registry in separate volumes known as the Marine Registers.

Searching the index shows following
FAWLEY  MARY 13540/1887 AGE 49  Died at sea MARINE PDF available

You will need to buy the certificate from the registry to find other details such as the date and cause of death and the latitude/longitude where the death occurred etc...

Surgeonís journals contain a wealth of information - entries are very detailed especially in the event of a birth or death at sea..........


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Re: Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 January 18 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Ladyhawk,

Your second link refer back to this one, sort-of.

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Re: Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 January 18 17:09 GMT (UK) »

Your second link refer back to this one, sort-of.

I''ve just deleted it -

from the first link right side heading Deaths at Sea
you need to click on the word 'index'
takes you too
births   deaths   marriages
click on deaths
enter family name
Fawley
Mary
date of event
01 1887 - 12 1887
click search button
you will then see search result for Mary
this can then be added to order

Edit -  I haven't tried the other link buy the certificate from the registry

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Re: Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 January 18 18:33 GMT (UK) »
 
 Name     Mary Rose   
 Event Type     Census   
 Event Date     1851   
 Event Place     Saint James, Middlesex, England   
 Registration District     Saint James Westminster   
 Residence Note     Williams Mary Yard   
 Gender     Female   
 Age     20   
 Marital Status     Unmarried   
 Occupation     House Servant   
 Birth Year (Estimated)     1831   
 Birthplace     Croydon, Surrey   
 Page Number     23   
 Registration Number     HO107   
 Piece/Folio     1483 / 249   
 Affiliate Record Type     Household 
...................................................................I presume this is the Mary Rose you refer to as born 1832 ?.................  www.geneanet.org has a record of Mary Rose born Croyden with father named as Joseph - was your Marys dad a Joseph ? it is a pay per view record so I haven't read it in full
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Re: Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 January 18 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much for this info Ladyhawk and Garstonite

I believe Mary's parents were Thomas and Rebecca Rose


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Re: Mary FAWLEY died onboard Panmure in 1887 - look up
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 January 18 15:58 GMT (UK) »
I believe Mary's parents were Thomas and Rebecca Rose

For info.

Mary ROSE was baptized 4 Jan 1832 St John Croydon Surrey
father Thomas, his occupation victualler, mother Rebecca

Mary Rose
married Francis Grimsley, shoemaker on 23rd Nov 1856 at St Johnís Church Bethnal Green
her father is named as Thomas ROSE occ Waiter on m/c.

Mary Grimsley widow married Francis William Buckley Fawley on 25th December 1875 at Parish Church St Andrew Holbron London,
her father is named as Thomas ROSE occ Waiter on m/c