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Tracking down a half-brother
« on: Sunday 07 January 18 17:22 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether anybody could offer me some tips as how I might track-down a half-brother. My mum and dad seperated. My mum swears blind that a half-brother exists. She says she found cheques made out to 'Clerk to the Justice'. My dad refused to talk about it

The only details I have are my dad's name

Kenneth Watson (born 21.06.1929. Died 10.02.17)
He may have been living in Gold Street in Salford at the time of the child's birth
According to my mum, there was a court case - the court decided that it was my dad's kid and instructed him to pay maintenance. The child was born in either 1957 or 1958. The mother was from Irlam in Manchester.

Any ideas regarding how to track my half-brother down would be most welcome

Thanks in advance


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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 January 18 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Birth Registrations after 1874 can only mention a father's name if he gave his consent, and was present at the registration of the birth.

So, without knowing a surname, tracking him down will be difficult?
FreeBMD (.org.uk) shows Mother's maiden names, so looking for a birth in Barton Registration District, 1957-1958, where the child's surname is the same as the mother's maiden name, might be a start?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 January 18 18:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi

WELCOME to Rootschat.

Hope that we can help you to a great 2018
However, we (and that means you as well) may not discuss living persons openly on this website.
As the half-brother may still be alive . . . . .
 
"The mother was from Irlam in Manchester."

To me, your statement implies that you know more than you have put in your post?
Is there any more info that you have that you have not given us?


Ray

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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 January 18 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Watsonwatson

Some general guidelines on following links on tracing living relatives.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=261434.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142443.0.html

How to send Private Messages when you have another post sent
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

Best of luck


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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 January 18 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Birth Registrations after 1874 can only mention a father's name if he gave his consent, and was present at the registration of the birth.

So, without knowing a surname, tracking him down will be difficult?
FreeBMD (.org.uk) shows Mother's maiden names, so looking for a birth in Barton Registration District, 1957-1958, where the child's surname is the same as the mother's maiden name, might be a start?

Thanks for your help - the only problem is that I don't know the mother's maiden name.

Thanks for trying

Regards

Nigel

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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 January 18 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi

WELCOME to Rootschat.

Hope that we can help you to a great 2018
However, we (and that means you as well) may not discuss living persons openly on this website.
As the half-brother may still be alive . . . . .
 
"The mother was from Irlam in Manchester."

To me, your statement implies that you know more than you have put in your post?
Is there any more info that you have that you have not given us?


Ray

Thanks for your input. The truth is that I don't know anything more. I've included all the details that I know of my family, and it is publically available via an Ancestory link - so absolutely no secrecy from me


Thanks again for your help

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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 January 18 19:54 GMT (UK) »
hi

Nothing of use there on tree.
Not even a mention of Irlam, nor the court case . . . . .

You are now able to use the PM/pm (Personal Message) to send/receive messages to/from me and/or others.

I am willing to at least review what you have
( and pass it on to others if you wish, or leave that to you )

Suggest that you make a complete summary of what you have and where it fits in your tree.
eg
Was KW already married to your mother when  1/2 brother born?
If you know that the mother was from Irlam then what are the other details you hold on her?


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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 January 18 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Watson,
It sounds like the cancelled cheques were because your father had an affiliation order placed on him to pay maintenance for his child.  In previous days this would have been known as a 'bastardy bond' .  An affiliation order was a legal document that declared that a man was the father of a child. It was requested by the mother of the child naming the father.

I would contact Manchester County Court and say you are looking for an historic affiliation order and give your Dad's name and see what they say.
 https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/manchester-county-court-and-family-court

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Re: Tracking down a half-brother
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 January 18 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Watson,
It sounds like the cancelled cheques were because your father had an affiliation order placed on him to pay maintenance for his child.  In previous days this would have been known as a 'bastardy bond' .  An affiliation order was a legal document that declared that a man was the father of a child. It was requested by the mother of the child naming the father.

I would contact Manchester County Court and say you are looking for an historic affiliation order and give your Dad's name and see what they say.
 https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/manchester-county-court-and-family-court

Thanks a million - really useful advice!