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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 12:48 GMT (UK) »
In 1881, the family are at
Orchard Mains House, Traquair, Peeblesshire

Arthur Cecil, 29. Farmer of 4000 acres , b. England
Elizabeth Ann, 38, farmer's wife, b. England
Lionel Cecil, brother, 28, b. England
Arthur W J, son, 6, b. England
Reginald E, son, 2, b. Traquair

and 10 servants


Pic of this house - ? possible


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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Only pic I can find so far:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42022287.html


Added - some outside views that are possible
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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Only pic I can find so far:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42022287.html


Added - some outside views that are possible

That's not Orchard Mains House, which appears to have been demolished.

That property is located here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Kirkhouse+Cottages,+Innerleithen+EH44+6PU/

If you look on this old map you will see Orchard Mains House was located several hundred yards to the north in what is now a wooded area: http://maps.nls.uk/view/75652640


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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 13:35 GMT (UK) »
From an article about the builder of Orchard Mains

He also built the mansion house at Orchard Mains (now completely vanished) for Lord Cecil
http://www.pastinnerleithen.com/robert-mathison
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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 14:10 GMT (UK) »
From an article about the builder of Orchard Mains

He also built the mansion house at Orchard Mains (now completely vanished) for Lord Cecil
http://www.pastinnerleithen.com/robert-mathison

Thanks, Jennifer. It would explain why I had problems finding any images and the only one coming up was RightMove :-X

They moved to another farm near Tunbridge in Kent by 1901 - and seemed to have named it Orchardmein!

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added - a short article about Arthur Cecil:

http://www.bordertelegraph.com/news/15481811.Tweeddale_s_History__The_history_of_Lord_Cecil_from_Traquair/
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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 15:57 GMT (UK) »
I was given an old carte de visite photo album containing about 60 images.  I'm curious about the previous owners, and posted a story about it on my Family Photo Reunion blog.  I'm particularly interested in learning which manor house is featured in a photo inside the album.  Can you help? 

You can read more about the picture and the other images in the album at:

http://familyphotoreunion.blogspot.com/2013/06/mystery-manor-house-carte-de-visite.html

Thanks,
Carol

Hello Carol

Can I see a high resolution scan of the curved gable? Don't know if it is a mark in the photo (which is only 57kb), but there looks to be a pattern, besides a tiny window, or recess, on the curved gable?

There is also some ornate work over the bay windows.

Also a squarish, ornate work to the low roof, is it a Clock, a Dial or Family Arms, or just fancy accoutrements?

If you don't wish to scan the whole picture at higher dpi (and probably too big to post), you should be able to select 300 or 400dpi and scan parts of the photo i.e. curved gable and chimneys.

Are the tall chimneys round, hexagonal, or square, some look as though they could be round, others square, or possibly other shape?

I presume you have tilted the picture album back and forth in different brightness of lights and also natural daylight?

I had a 100 year old photo of a thatched roof school and the name was originally embossed written on the photo, but had completely rubbed / chipped cleanly off the photo surface, leaving where the letters once were, very very slightly darker, which could only be seen by tilting the photo back and forth in different lights.

I like the house very much!

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 17:55 GMT (UK) »
It's in a very similar style to Maften Hall

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Been by Matfen a few times but never visited. Some similarities  but ....

https://www.matfenhall.com/hotel/a-brief-history-of-matfen-hall/

and

http://images.visitkielder.com/Matfen-Hall/vn-medium-Exterior.jpg


added - still think it's the 'vanished' Orchard Main in Peeblesshire as it has strong links to the family.

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Re: Can you help ID this manor house, possibly in Northumberland?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 09 January 18 19:59 GMT (UK) »
 Just found the link with Newbiggin by the Sea, where  Arthur William James Cecil was born in 1885:


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Arthur Cecil, born 3 July 1851 ; married, first, 8 January 1874, Elizabeth Ann, eldest daughter of Joseph Wilson, of Woodhorn Manor, Northumberland,

https://tinyurl.com/y82aestc

I've been to Woodhorn a few times but not sure if the original Manor is there. Maybe Jennifer would know.

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(I've lots of pics of both Newbiggin by the Sea and Woodhorn!)
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