Traynor

[Chris773]

I am looking for information on my grandfather John J Traynor. John was born in County Cavan, Ireland around 1862 but spent some time in Liverpool, England, before joining the Royal Marines in 1881. On the 1891 English census he is shown as living in Widnes, England and married to Sarah with three children, Peter John b.1886, William b.1888 and Ann b.1890. The family then disappear completely until John turns up again in the UK in 1906.

We understand that John deserted from the Marines in Australia and spent the next seven years living in the bush from the late 1890's to early 1900's, before being captured and sent back to England in chains. We have no idea what happened to John's family and it has been suggested that they may have accompanied him to Australia and their descendants could still be living there.

I would be very grateful for any information on John and his family. Thanks 

[MaureeninNY]

Strange,but going by the children-he turns up in 1901 (Widnes) as Peter TRAYNOR with the same wife and family.

The marriage 1884 has him as Peter TRAYNOR marrying Sarah KAY.

Maureen

[rosie99]

Childrens births in Prescot RD show mmn Kay

Marriage has John as 'Peter'
Dec qtr 1884   
Kay    Sarah       
Traynor  Peter       
Prescot    8b   1049

Beat me to it Maureen 

[MaureeninNY]

  Rosie!


So is this Peter:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-52LR

Which of the children are you descended from?

Maureen

[rosie99]

1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTY-SGX

[MaureeninNY]

Reading through previous posts I think we're looking for this chap who doesn't seem to be the fellow from 1891:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLD-ZFV

Maureen

[rosie99]

Thank you Maureen, that would make sense   

Son Bernard
TRAYNOR, BERNARD  JOHN     mmn NICHOLSON     
1909  Dec Quarter
CARDIFF RD  Volume 11A  Page 437

[rosie99]

Late marriage 
June qtr 1915   
Nicholson    Johanna   
Traynor    John   
Fulham    1a   867   

[rosie99]

The marriage details would be useful to confirm his fathers name.   

There is a John in Liverpool in 1871 with a father Bernard (mother Bridget) 
RG10 / 3789 f23 p40

Deaths Dec 1874   
TRAYNOR    Bernard    age 38   
Liverpool    8b   240