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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 January 18 22:38 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 January 18 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Weir/Ware's parents were Mathew Ware and Mary Callaghan

Mathew Weir was born 18th May 1874 Greenock,Scotland to the same parents
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/St__Mary_s_Terrace/1281189/

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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 January 18 23:19 GMT (UK) »
see Bridget McGrath dtr of Richard McGrath and Bridget Callaghan 54 Mabbott St sponsor Mathew Ware
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.marys_pro-cathedral_mf_1880-1889_ba_0107

They were married in Greenock 24th Nov 1874

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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 January 18 12:38 GMT (UK) »
1940 age 53 informant T Kelly 50 Parnell Sq
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1940/04731/4265442.pdf

buried Glasnevin
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml

death of son Thomas 1942 age 21
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1942/04690/4251121.pdf

I would agree with dathai that this is Mary Anne KELLY nee Carroll that you are looking for

Daughter Josephine Patricia KELLY married on Jun 28 1939 from the same address LINK
as Mary Anne KELLY and Thomas KELLY Jnr died

Son George KELLY died Dec 10 1942 at same address; informant father Thomas LINK

It also implies that Thomas KELLY was still alive in December 1942 when George died
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 January 18 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Wow  :o Thank you all so much for the information.  It is great to have the actual records which is what I struggled with for the past year.   

Is it right for me to think that Mary Anne Carroll born at 54 M'abbot Street is indeed my g.grandmother however the date of birth I got as the 2nd May 1882 came from Military records for her son William, about half way through the document under the Pensions Act. I know records were not always correct back then but this could be something that has me going totally down the wrong avenue.

http://mspcsearch.militaryarchives.ie/docs/files//PDF_Pensions/R3/3D121WilliamKelly/W3D121WilliamKelly.pdf

Again thank you for all the information in the last couple of days much appreciated & exciting  ;)
Researching Shiels/McGrane/Kelly/Carroll/Adamson/McGrane family history

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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 January 18 09:18 GMT (UK) »
Looking at all of dathai's research you have

- A Mary Anne Carroll living with her uncle Matthew WEIR at St. Mary's Terrace in 1901

- Matthew WEIR married Mary REILLY on July 25 1898 and gave his father as Matthew WEIR

- Link to forum from 2008 shows member Shakti677 looking for information on this family; gives Matthew's parents as Matthew WEIR/WARE and Mary (O')CALLAGHAN

- When Elizabeth WARE married Owen CARROLL on June 6 1880 these are the names given as her parents on the church record

Given this information it is highly probable that the 1901 census return is of your Mary Anne CARROLL and probable that she is the same person who married Thomas KELLY on Jan 22 1905.

As dates of birth/ages were not of high importance to many at that time and literacy was low, these  are often out by quite a substantial amount of time.

Have you looked for the church record of the marriage in 1905? There is a possibility that this recorded both parents names.
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 January 18 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes I have the marriage cert from 22 Jan 1905 and her father is listed as Owen Carroll, his father Micheal Kelly.  Thomas & Mary residence at time of marriage is 44 upper Dorset St.
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Re: Mary Anne Kelly nee Carroll
« Reply #17 on: Monday 15 January 18 11:20 GMT (UK) »
The certificate you have is most likely the civil certificate

The church would also have recorded the marriage - 1905 is too late to be on line but there is a possibility that the church recorded both parents names.  If you look at this LINK to a marrriage in the church in 1904 their register showed both parents' names. Unfortunately 1905 is not on line you would have to contact the church.
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder