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deciphering names in 1661 Scottish will
« on: Saturday 13 January 18 02:52 GMT (UK) »
The will of Christiane Wyllie, 1661, has a list of 37 debts awand in. I'm stuck on some of the names.

First image: In the first be [   ] in [   ]
                   [  ] Smith in kirkmuir
Second image: [   ] gilmor [servitor?] to the laird
                    be [  ] wyllie in Kilmarnock
third image: who is that in between John Caskie and Robert Dickie?

Thanks, there are a few more but they will have to wait their turn for another post.

Katherine

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Re: deciphering names in 1661 Scottish will
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 January 18 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Patrik Smith

Patrik gilmor

Maybe?:  Arther wyllie  (with the forename split Ar/ther across the lines.)

Archbald spei?  (Not sure of the last letter.)

ADDED:

Regarding Archbald's surname, does it continue with the extra letters beginning th which come before the xij?

The others don't have a similar word before their amounts.

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Re: deciphering names in 1661 Scottish will
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 January 18 05:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you! I'll do some digging into old Stewarton parish records and see if I can come across a surname that looks like a match for Archibald. I agree that the "th.." might be part of the surname since it doesn't appear before the amounts in any of the other debts listed. I'll also look for the name Arthur appearing in the Wyllie family.

I would never have gotten those names in a million years, so thanks again.

Katherine

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Re: deciphering names in 1661 Scottish will
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 January 18 06:12 GMT (UK) »
Speir is a name seen in the Kilmarnock area circa late 1600's so it looks like that is Archibald's surname. Perhaps the "th" word is "there", referring to Robertland which is the location of the previous listed person in the document.

Arthur doesn't appear to have been a commonly used name in the Stewarton and Kilmarnock area, but I can't come up with any other name that would fit.

Katherine

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Re: deciphering names in 1661 Scottish will
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 January 18 08:41 GMT (UK) »
As all the other people in the list have a designation after their name (in such and such a place or their occupation) the word/abbreviation after Archbald Speir must also be a designation. As it is not a place-name, you'd expect it to be something like Yr for "there".