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Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi
This my first foray into searching American Records and I would appreciate some ideas od=f where to look.
My ancestors are British but in tracing my 3Xgreat grand aunt Eliza Moss and her husband Thomas I found that sometime between the Uk census in 1841 and the US census 1850 they migrated from Wiltshire, England to New York County. I haven't yet found out exactly when they arrived and it may be that they did not all travel together.  That is something I am following up.
I have however found from online trees that two sons died within a few weeks of each other in prison camps. Apparently they both volunteered in New York Regiments.
Edgar Stanmore Moss born in 1835 Malmesbury, Wiltshire
                                died in Oct 1864 in Charleston, South Carolina of yellow fever
William Stanley Moss born approx 1822 in Malmesbury
                               died in Sep `864 in Andersonville, Georgia of starvation.
Before I add these details to my tree I would like to confirm their deaths and other military information.  Please could anyone suggest where I can look for records?
Thanks
Jan
Tomlinson, Gash, Faulkner, Dickinson, Dawson - Lincolnshire
Toms, Street, Witt, Harris, Foot(e) - Hampshire

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:07 GMT (UK) »
FIND A GRAVE

Lieut Edgar S. Moss - Beaufort National Cemetery  Beaufort, Beaufort County, South Carolina.

2nd Lieutenant, Co. M, 7th NY Heavy Artillery.
Enlisted into Co. C as a Private 8 Aug `62 at Albany, NY at age 26.
Promoted to Corporal 18 Aug `62;
to Sergeant 5 Jan `63; to QM Sgt 5 Sept `63;
to Regimental QM Sgt 2 Dec `63.
Commissioned 2nd Lieutenant of Co. M 15 Feb `64.
Captured 16 June `64 at Petersburg, VA.
Died 4 Oct 1864 of Yellow Fever at Charleston, SC.
Marked as E. S. Moses.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9570452

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:09 GMT (UK) »
1850 US census Venice, Cayuga, New York.

Thomas Morse   60 Eliza Morse   54
Henry Morse   30 William Morse   24
Edgar Morse   14 Rosa J Morse   10
Frederick Morse   8

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:11 GMT (UK) »
U.S., Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles, 1861-1865 - Edgar S Moss - born 1836 - private - enlisted Albany NY - Was POW - Did not survive the war.

Promoted to Full Corporal on 18 Aug 1862.Enlisted in Company C, New York 7th Heavy Artillery Regiment on 09 Aug 1862.  Promoted to Full Qtr Master Serg on 02 Dec 1863.  Promoted to Full Sergeant on 05 Jan 1863.  Promoted to Full Qtr Master Serg on 05 Sep 1863.Promoted to Full 2nd Lieutenant on 15 Feb 1864.  Mustered out on 04 Oct 1864 at Charleston, SC.

Source- New York: Report of the Adjutant-General Carnival of Blood - Civil War Ordeal of 7th NY Heavy Artillery.

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:15 GMT (UK) »
U.S., Burial Registers, Military Posts and National Cemeteries, 1862-1960 -  Cpl  William Stanley Moss - 7 NY Art - enlistment location - Locke, New York - 2 January 1864

Died 13 september 1864 at Andersonville as a prisoner of war - died of scorbutus

Burial Andersonville National Cemetery Georgia Grave Site   8711 - 13 September 1864.

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:21 GMT (UK) »
New York, Town Clerks' Registers of Men Who Served in the Civil War, ca 1861-1865
Locke - Cayuuga - side served - union.

Frederick Moss born 26 July 1833 Wiltshire England - father Thomas Moss Mother Eliza Lea -
residence place Moravia - enlisted 1 August 1862 - Regiment   111th Regiment - I Company -
married.

FIND A GRAVE

Frederick T. Moss - 26 July 1832 - spouse Mary Moss -

Burial  Woodland Cemetery  Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio.
Plot Section - 72. Tier - 04. Grave - 03.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114814556

spouse Mary Hamilton Moss - 4 January 1831 -

Burial -Woodland Cemetery  Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio.
Plot Section - 72. Tier - 04. Grave - 03

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114820084/mary-moss

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Z5-J7CY?i=69&cc=2128172

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
1880 census Westfield, Medina, Ohio.

Frederick Moss   44 born England. Farmer.
Mary Moss   44 born New York
Lewellin Rowley   17 step-son
Ester M. Rowley   15 step-daughter

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all that information Sandra.
The census record is theirs and there are other censuses which show Thomas living with his married daughter Rosa.
I tried looking on Find a Grave but without success so thanks for Edgar's grave details and William's death.  The tree I saw online said he died of starvation but could well be a mis-transcription.

I know very little about the Civil War and I will need to do some reading.  By some strange coincidence I read novel a week ago that was set in Boston in the late 1860's and two sons of the main family had died at Andersonville in the prison.

I now need to read the information you have given me carefully and decide what to do next.  These to brothers are my first cousins 4 times removed.
Thanks again.
Jan
Tomlinson, Gash, Faulkner, Dickinson, Dawson - Lincolnshire
Toms, Street, Witt, Harris, Foot(e) - Hampshire

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Re: Two brother whoe died in 1864 in prison camps
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 January 18 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Frederick T. Moss enlisted for Civil War army service in the 111th Regiment, New York Infantry, July 19, 1862 at Moravia, New York, (Cayuga County) but was accredited to Locke, New York, as a private soldier. He was wounded May 5, 1864, possibly at the Battle of the Wilderness in Virginia, and spent most of June in a hospital recovering. By August 31, 1864, he had returned to duty and had been promoted to Sargeant. He was ill in the hospital in December 1864, and probably because of time lost from in the field he was reduced to Private, to be mustered out June 4, 1865 at the end of the war....................etc etc - scroll down on find a grave to read lots more

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