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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 18 January 18 11:25 GMT (UK) »
The family arrived in NYC in 1835.  John and Rosanna's oldest son, William, was born in NYC in 1839. By 1850, both John and his brother, Joseph Gibson, appear on a US Census living in Louisville, KY.  Both were butchers.  I have no idea what became of John's siblings.  It's likely that they all stayed in the New York City area.

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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 18 January 18 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Forgive my ignorance of US birth certificates - but doesn't William's entry in 1839 give mother's maiden name?  UK ones do  :)
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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 18 January 18 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Actually they provide the name that the mother gave them; however, finding a birth certificate is extremely difficult to find because New York State did not start keeping such records until 1881.  I have no idea where in NYC he was born (likely at home). 

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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 18 January 18 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Ah well, it was a good try on my part  :-\
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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 18 January 18 13:31 GMT (UK) »
That was one of the first places I went and was disappointed when I saw that there is no place where births prior to 1881 can be found.  I'm amazed that I've gotten as much information as I have found regarding the Tate family. 

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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 18 January 18 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Actually they provide the name that the mother gave them; however, finding a birth certificate is extremely difficult to find because New York State did not start keeping such records until 1881.  I have no idea where in NYC he was born (likely at home).

New York City keeps its vital records separately from the rest of New York state.  There are some earlier New York City birth records, but I don't know if they typically had the mother's maiden name.  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/New_York_City,_New_York_Genealogy#New_York_City_Birth_Records

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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #24 on: Friday 19 January 18 07:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your assistance.  However, birth records from as early as 1847 (depending on the borough) to as late to 1909 are held at the New York City Municipal Archives.  This does not help me since my ancestor was born in 1839.

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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #25 on: Friday 19 January 18 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought - William was born prior to NYC records, but what about younger siblings, would they fall within the timescale?

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Re: Searching for William Tate and family from Yorkshire
« Reply #26 on: Friday 19 January 18 09:08 GMT (UK) »
He was the only one born in NYC.  His next youngest sibling, Josephine, was born in 1849 in Jefferson County, Kentucky (KY).  I've written to the Louisville/Jefferson County, KY Clerk for information about Josephine and her younger siblings.