Thx for that. I believe she has been in contact with the Convent and they directed her to the church but their achavist or whoever can help isnt avail til the end of the month, so she is waiting for that.
The whole Convent thing is another strange set of facts. The family placed Olive in the convent for the birth as she was only 16. After the birth they took the child to raise it but left Olive at the convent. They never lied or hid anything from the child, but left her mother in the convent. It was only when my friends mother got married, she and her husbant went to the convent and, "signed her mother out", and she went to live with her daughter.
Again, all a bit weird. My friend says her grandmother wasnt disabled or had interlectual problems, and yet her family left her at the convent for 20 years after the child was born.
The convent ran a laundrete, so women worked for their food and bed.
Duane
I would suggest that the linked Third Party Application form be completed before approaching the Registry. I had issues obtaining my own mother's birth certificate in 2008 at which time I held a Enduring Power of Attorney. Her birth certificate was required by a Share Registry as her shares had been purchased in her second given name only and by which she was known.
I'm a bit stunned that the Victorian Registry even discussed or carried out a 1924 birth search. I was required to forward certified copies of my own birth certificate and marriage certificate along with my passport for identification before any progress could be made. She was born in 1922 and is now deceased.
Perhaps it my be a good idea to look at some facts and read about the social conditions of the era. Both's Olive's sisters were married in 1920 so who helped raise Olive's daughter as Ellen Levena
GILBERT nee
SHEARGOLD appears to be supporting herself from 1919.
Olive may not have given birth at Abbotsford in 1924.
Like many other Good Shepherd institutions around the world, the laundry was an important facet of the operations at Abbotsford. The commercial laundry, known as the Magdalen laundry, provided income for the Sisters, and work for the girls and women in the Sisters' care.
Another section of the Abbotsford Convent was the Magdalen Asylum (built in 1877). Unlike other 'female refuges' of the time, it did not admit pregnant women and their infants. (Catholic women could go to the St Joseph's Receiving Home at Broadmeadows from 1902.) Inmates of the Magdalen Asylum were housed in a building called Sacred Heart. The majority of them worked in the laundry.
Archivist at Good Shepherd Australia New Zealand Provincialate (Good Shepherd Archives)
Address: PO Box 182, Abbotsford VIC 3067
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All requests for personal information must be accompanied by some form of personal identification such as a copy of your birth certificate or a copy of your current driver's licence. If you are applying for information about another person, their permission is required. If you are applying for information about a person who is deceased, proof of death is required. Proof of your relationship to the deceased person is also required.
According to the 1924 electoral roll Olive Mary
GILBERT's b1908 father, Wm Henry
GILBERT was not enrolled to vote at the same address as her her mother Ellen Levena. They appear at the same address in 1919. Ellen continues to be the only
GILBERT enrolled at her address on later rolls. She had occupations laundress, presser and cleaner. Have you considered that Ellen was either a widow or Wm Henry has left her and she couldn't support her dau as well.
Olive May's address on the 1942 electoral roll is Female Refuge, Clarke Street, Abbotsford, laundress.
In 1949 Olive is enrolled to vote living at 20 Alfred Street, St Kilda, home duties and her mother is living at 242 Carlisle Street, St Kilda, cleaner.
Ellen was cremated 9 Apr 1953 and her remains are interred at Fawkner Memorial Park. She is the only one interred at the location.
http://www.gmct.com.au/deceased-search.aspxDo the family know where and when Wm Henry
GILBERT died?
Cando