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Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« on: Friday 19 January 18 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Arthur William Farmer was born 1891 England.  Emigrated to Canada in 1919 with wife Hilda. 
They had 2 children, Hilda born about 1920 and William Henry Farmer born 1922 Edmonton.
I would have expected to see them in the 1921 Canada Census, but cannot find them.
Any help much appreciated.
Thankyou.   Jazgran

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 January 18 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Havent found him on 1921 yet but see he is listed on the Alberta death index - Arthur William Farmer - death 21 November 1950 Edmonton - Registration Number 007-771

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 January 18 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Is that Hilda May Farmer married name Ziegler ?  There is an obituary for that lady - August 31, 1920 - July 23, 2013

Hilda was born in Edmonton, and moved with her mother to Liverpool, England. In 1946 she returned to Canada and later found employment in Kitchener at Mutual Life, her co-worker being Harry's sister...................etc etc

http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Hilda-Ziegler&lc=3767&pid=166002971&mid=5610066

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114352086

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 January 18 12:30 GMT (UK) »
So is this the people you are looking for
Name    Arthur William Farmer
Birth Date    1891
Age    27
Spouse's Name    Hilda Mary Loden
Spouse's Birth Date    1893
Spouse's Age    25
Event Date    10 Oct 1918
Event Place    St. Margret, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name    William Farmer
Spouse's Father's Name    Henry Loden
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Name    Sapper Arthur William Farmer
Spouse's Name    Hilda Mary Seden
Event Date    12 May 1918
Event Place    St. Margret, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Newfoundland 1921 there is a wm farmer ( fermer) a boarder, looks like a clergyman 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9FW-2SJW?i=43&cc=2226517

I do not see either of them on the Canadian 1921 census.

Just found this, is this the child Hilda, if so there may be a clue that certainly her and her mother didn't stay in Canada but moved back to England  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114352086


Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 January 18 12:48 GMT (UK) »
UK Incoming Passenger List - New York to Liverpool arriving - 10 April 1923 - SS Regina.  Hilda M Farmer aged 31 years with 2 children Hilda M aged 3 years and William H aged 8 months - going to 4 Carter Street Princess Road Liverpool
Intended future residence British Province.

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 January 18 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to Sandra and iluleah for that information.  Yes, those are the correct people in the family.   

Thank you for confirmation that its difficicult to find Arthur in the 1921 Canada census.

All the info you have both given is very helpful and will be passed on to my friend.

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 January 18 13:54 GMT (UK) »
The writing is difficult to read but I think this is Arthur and family in the 1921 census...lines 5, 6, and 7.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=pdf&id=e002858282

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 January 18 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Many, many thanks, Polar Bear.   Yes, you've found them!!   

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Re: Arthur William Farmer, born 1891 England
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 January 18 19:18 GMT (UK) »
The writing is difficult to read but I think this is Arthur and family in the 1921 census...lines 5, 6, and 7.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=pdf&id=e002858282

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Great find PB -

on ancestry Mum Hilda and daughter Hilda -

Wilda M Franssen 29 years. born England.
Hilda Mary Franssen  11/12 months - born 1920. born Alberta.

Arthur listed separately

Arthur M Franssen 29 Born England. Blacksmith.

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