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Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« on: Friday 19 January 18 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with baptism records for Wimbourne please? (I can't find any records online and there is no opc for Wimbourne).

I am trying to find a baptism for Thomas Carter ALLEN.  I don't even have an estimated dob for him, but he married Jane MITCHELL on 6 July 1796 at Wimbourne Minster by Licence.  Both bride and groom were described as otp.

He lived in Portsea in Hampshire at some point (I have him there in c.1794) but other research leads me to believe that he was born in Wimbourne.  In 1801 he was in Fleet Prison for debt.

Any help gratefully received.

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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 January 18 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry have the records, he doesn't show up in a search, you could trawl through yourself and see if his baptism was missed in the indexing.

You don't say what other evidence you have for him being born in Wimborne, being OTP on marriage doesn't necessarily indicate being born there.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,† Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 January 18 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Dorset FHS have transcribed Parish Registers for Wimborne Minster and surrounding areas and offer a look-up service.

https://www.dorsetfhs.org.uk/research/
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 January 18 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you nanny jan and Jebber for your advice.
I didn't go into all the details about why I think he was born in Wimbourne as it's quite a complicated piece of research and I am quite confident it is thorough and I've got the right man.
I agree that being otp doesn't mean he was born in the parish, but other stuff leads me to think he comes from there or somewhere close by.  Unfortunately he doesn't seem to make it to the 1841, let alone the 1851!!

Thanks again,
Melbell

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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 January 18 13:03 GMT (UK) »
What happened after the marriage?   Did they have children and if so where?

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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 January 18 13:17 GMT (UK) »
What happened after the marriage?   Did they have children and if so where?


Was just going to post  and ask the same about any children

If they did, perhaps naming patterns may give a clue to his father

Perhaps Carter was his motherís maiden name  :-\

Who witnessed their marriage?


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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette and Ladyhawk

Thank you for your interest.

I have been trying to find children of the marriage, the couples' deaths/burials, etc.  Marriage witnesses give no obvious clues.

It's all proving quite difficult, but I am beavering away at the problem!

There is a Thomas Carter Allen born in Stepney in 1895 and various possible deaths in Portsea and Wimborne, but nothing to give me a real clue at present.

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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Came across mention of Thomas in another persons research, it says their William Rook started a 7yr apprenticeship as bricklayer/ stone mason around 1794 in Portsea and his master was Thomas Carter Allen.
Link, scroll down to the white box  http://www.rookfamily.co.uk/Family_Tree.html
Masters, Parker, A'Court, Cary(ey), Cannon, Oram, Reynolds, Hennessy, Chislett,
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Muspratt,Pitman - Wiltshire, Dorset
Treasure - Stoke Lane & Sherborne

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Re: Thomas Carter ALLEN - Wimbourne
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 January 18 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi jusnoneed

Yes, I know all about this, thank you.  In fact, I am researching ALLEN because of his connection with William ROOK.

By the way, I would advise people not to use the Rook website at present as it's infected with dangerous malware.

Kind of you,
Melbell