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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 20 January 18 01:25 GMT (UK) »
Re Ros' addition:

Defintely OUR Annie.  Seems an interesting family of Dutch Jews the SOLOMONS.

Is this possible:

SOLOMON, Ernest
b, Collingwood 1890 (2337)
F: John SOLOMON
M: Annie SOLOMONS.

This Ernest is the bro of Stella and Florence.  BUT it makes him VERY young to marry Esther in 1904.  Is it possible he moved his age 10 years because they HAD to get married?!  OR could it be a late registration, but no R after the reg to explain this.

This also explains why Ernest and Stella and Annie were all using the name ESDAILE.

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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 20 January 18 02:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am part of the family went to New Zealand in 1960 & the son of Arthur John Esdaile. I have not been able to trace Annie May or Herbert E, sister & brother.  I also got back to Ernest son of Jacob but got no further. Ernest Solomon in 1911 census uses Esdaile place of birth Melbourne, however an immigration record shows English not a colonist.1911 census shows Annie & Arthur as Esdaile. Death certificates of Arthur & Herbert in the name of Esdaile
That's about all I have would appreciate more if there is any.
In te middle of moving house so sporadic for a bit.

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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 20 January 18 02:50 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat Mike  :)   Good to have some more input.

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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 20 January 18 03:05 GMT (UK) »
It seems Florence was born in NZ  (as it states in 1901 census)

From NZ BDM https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/home

1872 Florence SOLOMON, father John, mother Annie reg 14753

There are also other possible births about this time in NZ to a John and Annie
1871 Abram Charles SOLOMON, father John, mother Annie
1875 Harold SOLOMON, father John, mother Annie

But no sign of an Ernest

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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 January 18 03:17 GMT (UK) »
Ros

Ernest was born in 1890.

Reply #18

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CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
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SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 20 January 18 03:23 GMT (UK) »
Yes good find Bitzar  :)  Just wondered if there was another possibility given the age difference ...
But yes it could be a late registration which wasn't noted as such.
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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 20 January 18 03:34 GMT (UK) »
It seems in 1878 there was a bad insolvency case in Melbourne regarding John SOLOMON.  This is def the correct John SOLOMON as he names A. SOLOMONS as his father in law and POLLOCK and BEVAN in Hokitika.  Remember he died the same as POLLOCK in Glebe, NSW in 1927. 

The newspaper article re his death states he was 95, making him about 20 years older than Annie (Looks like she was actually born as Hannah).  NSW deaths have his parents as Solomon and Lydia.  The 1851 has a Solomon, b Holland and Lydia, b City of London with their family.  No John but there is a Jonas bc1832.  Also note that one of John's sisters married POLLOCK.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 20 January 18 03:54 GMT (UK) »
I was thinking that the John HOLLAND SOLOMON who died in 1927 (as an old citizen of Hokitika) was the grandfather of Stella so father of John HOLLAND  SOLOMON who fathered Stella and Florence.   I think his age of 95/6 allows that at a push.

But the obit only mentions 4 daughters ...  :(

adding : but yes it fits in other ways so perhaps the obit missed some family
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Re: Solomon Family in Australia
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 20 January 18 04:24 GMT (UK) »
OK, have I missed something?!  Who is John HOLLAND?!  :o

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England