Roberts Penrhyn

[mandywills]

Please could someone help me locate this family.
I have a David Roberts born 1872, a Blacksmith by trade and lived at Adwyddu Smithy, Penrhyndeudraeth.

His wife was Sarah Jane Roberts, Richards before marriage, born 23 Aug 1870.

Sarah Jane has a sister- Elizabeth Richards born 14th Feb 1876.

David and Sarah have many children, I can not be certain of the precise amount but do guess it possibly being 8 children. One of the children is a son - Robert John.

David and Sarah are buried together, Sarah died 1944 and her husband David died 1951.

Thank You

[CaroleW]

Can you clarify what you mean about wanting help to locate the family?

When and where did they marry?

Have you looked for them on the 1901 and 1911 censuses to get details of their children?

www.rootschat.com/links/01egx/

If you are researching backwards - have you looked on the 1881 census for them?  The 1881 is free on Family Search as is the 1871

www.rootschat.com/links/01egx/

When & where was Robert born?

You can use GRO online to search for Roberts births with mothers maiden name Richards.  Registration is free as is use of the site

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

[Milliepede]

This family has a Robert John - do you know when he was born?

1901 add Griffin Terrace Penrhyndeudraeth

David Roberts 30
Sarah Jane 30
Jennie 8
Ellen Blodwen 7
Robert Jno 5
Eva Dd 4 - I think it's supposed to be Evan Dd possible for David - male anyway so not Eva
Annie Richards 29 sister in law

Annie helpfully provides a link between Richards and Roberts

[Milliepede]

More children born between 1901-1911

Gwen Jones Roberts
Llewylyn Tecwyn Roberts
Sarah Lizzie Roberts
Meirion Roberts

That makes 8 but 10 in total means that 2 have died. 

As Carole says you can check out births and deaths on the GRO registration index to track them all down 

[mandywills]

The family in Griffin Terrace certainly sounds like them, and this is the search I followed.
The problem being is that this Sarah Jane remarried an Evan Jones in 1904, she died in 1944.

My Sarah Jane did not remarry, however she did die in the same year 1944.

It seems both Sarah’s also had 8 children and both seem to have a son named Robert John

[keyboard86]

Hi is David with Sarah Jane in 1911, as their is this birth you may wish to check out:-

Gwen Jones Roberts March qtr 1902 Festiniog 11b 335 mmn RICHARD

Where is the newly married Sarah Jane to an Evan Jones in 1911, and death of David Roberts?

Where did the marriage to Evan take place in 1904, I can see a possible to an Annie Roberts in Festiniog?

Did your Robert John Roberts marry an Ellen Jane Morris Dec qtr 1924 Festiniog, as he looks to be the one born Sept qtr 1896 Festiniog 11b 363 mmn Richards?

Keyboard86

[Milliepede]

Sarah Lizzie born Jun 1907 has mothers name Richards so this can't be the family with the Sarah Jane that remarries in 1904 - if that helps decide which is which.

My Sarah Jane did not remarry, however she did die in the same year 1944.

So the family with Sarah Lizzie must be your family. 

Which one is your direct ancestor - Robert John?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Sarah of Griffin Terrace is still Roberts in 1911

[mandywills]

This search is for a friend, so unfortunately I am not familiar with all the details.

I can confirm that yes Robert John Roberts married Ellen Morris. Robert John Roberts is my friends grandfather.

I have been told that Robert John Roberts was a blacksmith by trade and so was his father David Roberts.
Also, David and Sarah lived at ‘Adwyddu Smithy, Penrhyndeudraeth’.
I have been able to locate them on the 1939 census, but am having trouble pinpointing them before then, and therefore gaining the names of all the children.