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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
And perhaps my biggest incorrect assumption - that I would be able to trace all my ancestors in England back to the 16th century  ???

(three men named James Carter in the same village in the 1780s, two of them with wives named Ann, all three couples had daughters called Ann - no way of knowing which ones were my ancestors!)
Have you worked the trees of the other families to rule out the possibilities of the daughter being theirs?
Cheers Guy

Yes.  The three Anns did not die young and there is no pattern to the names of offspring.  No parents named on marriages in those days.  The ages given on the burials are missing or inconclusive.  No family wills.

Soooo frustrating ain't it!!
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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 19:22 GMT (UK) »
And perhaps my biggest incorrect assumption - that I would be able to trace all my ancestors in England back to the 16th century  ???

(three men named James Carter in the same village in the 1780s, two of them with wives named Ann, all three couples had daughters called Ann - no way of knowing which ones were my ancestors!)
Have you worked the trees of the other families to rule out the possibilities of the daughter being theirs?
Cheers Guy

Yes.  The three Anns did not die young and there is no pattern to the names of offspring.  No parents named on marriages in those days.  The ages given on the burials are missing or inconclusive.  No family wills.

Soooo frustrating ain't it!!

Ain't dat de troof!
That line is "on the back burner" while I research other lines, but I'll have another think about it in a year or two.
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 19:47 GMT (UK) »
And perhaps my biggest incorrect assumption - that I would be able to trace all my ancestors in England back to the 16th century  ???

Soooo frustrating ain't it!!

Ain't dat de troof!
That line is "on the back burner" while I research other lines, but I'll have another think about it in a year or two. 

Good plan. More comes on-line continuously.  Who knows what will show up in a year or two.



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Also: ROWSE in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.

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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes.  The three Anns did not die young and there is no pattern to the names of offspring.  No parents named on marriages in those days.  The ages given on the burials are missing or inconclusive.  No family wills.

No I meant did you check to see if the the parents had other children male or female a few months before the birth or even the baptism of Ann?
Many parish registers give birth dates as well as the baptism date  (but when you need it the birth date will be missing).
Did any of the families come under the Poor Laws?
Are there mentions in quarter sessions etc?
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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 21:49 GMT (UK) »
I assumed that once I got back before 1900 they wouldn't move much.  Boy was I wrong!  And before anyone asks, yes I'm sure they are the same people I have reference to them in their new home town referring to where they came from etc.
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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 21:53 GMT (UK) »
I assumed that once I got back before 1900 they wouldn't move much.  Boy was I wrong!  And before anyone asks, yes I'm sure they are the same people I have reference to them in their new home town referring to where they came from etc.

I think that is another assumption - "They can't be mine as mine came from xxxxx and yyyyy is miles away." People moved around far more than a lot of people think.
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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 23:03 GMT (UK) »
I assumed that once I got back before 1900 they wouldn't move much. 

Strangely I assumed the opposite.  I already knew that both sides of of my family arrived here with the steel industry in the early 1870's, so I was constantly questioning myself when my husbands family never moved more than about 20 miles from where they are now.
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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Assuming that people who I shared information and photos with would reciprocate.  :-\
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Re: Early Assumptions
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Assuming that if I had Irish ancestors, I could get back to the 1600s. I have no known Irish ancestors yet, if I did I;d be lucky to get past the immigrant. I have some Scottish ancestry, and Scottish and Irish surnames can be quite similar. Luckily Scotland records have survived much more than Irish.

Assuming that there were things such as "English DNA" or "Scottish DNA" when in reality DNA is DNA, there is no such thing as "English DNA". It is just certain DNA markers can be found in certain countries.
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DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain