Margaret Ann DAVIES

[iolaus]

Fairly sure Blaenrhondda was Pontypridd district

[Mabel Bagshawe]

There's a Margret Davies b c1883 Blaenrhondda on the 1891 census - parents James (collier) and Hannah. She has a older sisters Ann(e) and Jane. They're in Tylorstown/Ferndale in 1901  but father is still living.

Could be a mistake on the register??

For completeness: no not this one. She;s with parents in 1911

[iolaus]

The Beachom one I think lives in Llanwonno on the 1901 census (there is a brother Sidney born 2 years earlier - mmn Beacham) - so if you have found her on the 1901 census elsewhere they must be different people (their father is John though)

[iolaus]

DAVIES, MARGARET  ANN  (DAVIES)
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL  Volume 11A  Page 536

With the last one a Davies may have married a Davies or she is illeg.

I did search for marriages 1871-1883 under Cannon/Beacham in Glamorganshire but no matching spouse was a John Davies.

It's a Davies marrying a Davies, the old GRO index shows them both that way - the new one puts a line if no mothers maiden name

There is a Mary Ann BEACHAM marriage to a John Davies in Merthyr  Mar 1864

[heddwch]

Blaenrhondda details are in Pontypridd Registry Office
What is Margaret Ann  address on the Marriage cert please could be the incorrect marriage
Heddwch

[heddwch]

Name:   Margaret A Davies
Age in 1901:   18
Estimated birth year:   abt 1883

Relation:   Daughter
Father:   John Davies

Mother:   Letita Davies
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:   Ystradyfodwg
 
This is Margaret on the 1901 census living in Moreton Tce  Clydach Vale
He future husband  is also close by  a lodger with a Griffith Williams  and wife Ellen residing at 22 Glamorgan Terrace   LLwynypia Rhondda which is 1.8 miles away  from Clydach Vale

Parents John Davies Married Lettita  Davies  5th April 1868 Swansea


Ystradyfodwg is another name for the Rhondda

1911 census the family residing at 69 Clive Street Grangetown Cardiff Glamorgan

Husband William Henry Rowley  age 37 wife  Margaret Ann age 28 and child Ada Emily 

Hope this helps
kindest regards 

Heddwch

[Kath77]

Blaenrhondda details are in Pontypridd Registry Office
What is Margaret Ann  address on the Marriage cert please could be the incorrect marriage
Heddwch

Hi,
The addresses on the marriage cert say Blaenllechau for both - I believe this is a small hamlet near or part of Ferndale?

[Kath77]

Name:   Margaret A Davies
Age in 1901:   18
Estimated birth year:   abt 1883

Relation:   Daughter
Father:   John Davies

Mother:   Letita Davies
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:   Ystradyfodwg
 
This is Margaret on the 1901 census living in Moreton Tce  Clydach Vale
He future husband  is also in the same village  a lodger with a Griffith Williams  and wife Ellen residing at 22 Glamorgan Terrace   LLwynypia Rhondda which is 1.8 miles away

Parents John Davies Married Lettita  Davies  5th April 1868 Swansea


Ystradyfodwg is another name for the Rhondda

1911 census the family residing at 69 Clive Street Grangetown Cardiff Glamorgan

Husband William Henry Rowley  age 37 wife  Margaret Ann age 28 and child Ada Emily 

Hope this helps
kindest regards 

Heddwch

Thank you for this info :-) I have seen John and Letitia, and daughter Margaret Ann, but discounted them for some reason I can't remember now. I'll have a look and try to work out why!

I think 'my' Margaret A is the one living at 22 East Road with Thomas and Margaret Morgan in 1901. A 17 yr old servant. She is the only one who lists Blaenrhondda specifically as her birthplace, which I originally got from the 1911 census record. Her future husband Wm Henry is only a few streets away on Glamorgan Terrace.

Both the middle initial A, and Blaenrhondda are mis-transcribed on Ancestry making her hard to find. I'll see if I can attach the page...

Can't attach, but here's a link https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/118649555/person/370176106257/facts

Kath x

[Kath77]

There's a Margret Davies b c1883 Blaenrhondda on the 1891 census - parents James (collier) and Hannah. She has a older sisters Ann(e) and Jane. They're in Tylorstown/Ferndale in 1901  but father is still living.

Could be a mistake on the register??

For completeness: no not this one. She;s with parents in 1911

Hmm, perhaps she is the one I've found in 1901 - living without family as a servant age 17, birthplace Blaenrhondda. I had discounted her because of the father's name. But yes, as you say maybe an error. Or stepfather? The presence of Jane certainly fits... But if she's there in 1911 I can rule her out!

Kath :-)