Joseph & Eliza Pluish of Frinsbury

[Simon G.]

Hi all.  I'm having a bit of a problem is tracing a family through pretty much every record I can find, and hope that a new set of eyes might see something I've missed.  As part of my one-name study in the Twyman name, I've come across the attached marriage entry on CityArk - from All Saints' in Frinsbury.  The problem I'm having is that apart from this marriage entry, I'm not finding anything at all relating to Joseph Pluish (or indeed the Pluish surname at all) on either FindMyPast or Ancestry.

I've been hoping to find Joseph & Eliza together on a census return to find out what her place of birth & date is, as I'm at a loss as to who she is besides being the daughter of Thomas Twyman as noted on the marriage entry.  Anyone able to find anything at all please?  This is driving me a little bit loopy, if I'm honest.

[PaulineJ]

There's a smattering of Plewis around.
can't spot a good'un for you yet. Still rummaging

Births Jun 1843   (>99%)
PLUESS    Charlotte Pluess        Hoo    5   262   
Births Jun 1844   (>99%)
Pluis    Elizabeth Ann        Hoo    5   279    DULLOW
Pluis    Jane        Hoo    5   279     TWYMAN 
Births Sep 1844   (>99%)Pluis    George Leonard        Hoo    5   MISKIN
Births Sep 1845   Pluis    Frances        Hoo    5   274        TWYMAN 
Births Dec 1845   (>99%)
Pluis    George Alfred        Hoo    5   280     Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1846   Pluis    Harriet        Hoo    5   306        MISKIN 
Births Jun 1848  PLUEIS    Sarah Ann        Hoo    5   300    DULLOW 
Births Jun 1849   Plewis    James Edward        Hoo    5   301        MISKIN 
Births Dec 1850   Plueis    Eliza        Hoo    5   304     DULLOW 
Births Mar 1851   Plewis    Mary Ann        Hoo    5   332     MMN MISKIN 
Births Jun 1853  PLEWIS    Joseph        Hoo    2a   249       MISKIN   
Births Sep 1853   (>99%)
PLEWIS    John Thomas        Hoo    2a   250    
Births Jun 1857   (>99%)
Plewis    Eleanor        Hoo    2a   274    
Plewis    Ellen        Hoo    2a   274    
Births Sep 1859   (>99%)
Plewis    Amelia        Hoo    2a   325    

[Jebber]

There is a baptism on Findmypast of  a Joseph PLUIS at Allhallows Kent 12 December 1819 father Joseph, mother Anne. May be a possibility.

[MaureeninNY]

I wonder if this is Frances PLUIS:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLD-4FQ

[Jebber]

1871 Eliza PLEWIS age 47 widow servant in Maidstone.
 RG10/939/38/12.

[PaulineJ]

I think the Frances 1851 looks correct.
There is a 1865 marriage Hoo district for Frances E Plewis

Jane & eliza in 1851? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLD-K48

Makes 1871 "wrong" age, so possibly NOT nee Twyman in that census

[Jebber]

The ages vary, not unusual in domestic servants, but I think it is the same Eliza a servant widow aged 32 in 1851 in Maidstone.
HO107/1616/421/20.

The GRO  has a death of a Joseph PLURIS aged 27 Dec qtr vol 5 page 227 Hoo Union.  Thus would account for non appearances in the census.

[PaulineJ]

The GRO  has a death of a Joseph PLURIS aged 27 Dec qtr vol 5 page 227 Hoo Union.  Thus would account for non appearances in the census.

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[Simon G.]

Many thanks everyone.    Must confess that I hadn't considered that it might be spelled as Plewis.  I've come across an Eliza Plewis subsequently on 1871, 1881 and 1891 living in Senacre House in Otham, and wonder if this is the lady I'm after - she's down as a widowed housekeeper born in Selling in all three returns.  Ref numbers are as follows if anyone wants to look.
1871: RG10/939 38/12
1881: RG11/926 34/2
1891: RG12/685 93/3

What I find interesting are the two 1851 returns that have been mentioned in the thread (many thanks for those ) as in both cases the children are noted as born in Kent Stoke.  Not sure of the geography of that part of Kent (I was a Maidstone lad myself before we moved), but believe that's near Hoo?  If that is indeed her it's interesting, as while it does contradict the marriage entry (where father is given as Thomas, rather than Timothy as the census suggests) it would be convenient - partly as I do know the Timothy Twyman there (he was the husband, if I remember correct, of Frances Saven/Savin, and did flit around Selling and Whitstable).  I'll have to check in my file when I get home from work about if I know of a daughter Eliza for him.

Thanks again all for all your help and work.  It really is appreciated.