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Reading Fathers Forename
« on: Monday 22 January 18 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I need some help identifying the Name of the Father on the attached Marriage certificate. I hope this is an easy one for someone as it's a forename. The Surnames are Stainrod & Robinson I think the second one is David or Daniel? But the top one??? is it just the initials? Thanks in advance if you can help, Paul

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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 January 18 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Maybe shortened version of James or Thomas?

Or not!

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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 January 18 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Jas = James
Danl = Daniel
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 January 18 19:55 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Daniel, but in the first one, the second letter is far more like most examples of 'n' in the extract than 'a'.

I therefore think it's Jno, for John - though I admit the superscript 'o' has an unnecessary extra line leading off it at the top. My best guess would be that it was written at speed, and the pen stayed on the page a bit too long when the writer went to start the 'S' in the next word.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 January 18 21:22 GMT (UK) »
I see it as Jno for John too.
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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 January 18 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Jas = James
Danl = Daniel

In response to other points, I've now downloaded the image and agree that the first name is more probably Jno = John.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 January 18 22:29 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast have decided that the name is John as that is what appears on the transcription record.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 01:29 GMT (UK) »
I agree with:

Jno as John and Danl as Daniel




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Re: Reading Fathers Forename
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 03:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi pstainrod,

Welcome to the Rootchat website. :)

Best transcribe (type it) yourself (on this tread) full details of the marriage of the couple who married- the date, where marriage took place or in which parish in Yorks or register office , grooms occupation, ages of the couple and abodes of couple at time of marriage. From this info members of Rootschat may find the couple baptisms and maybe with occupations of fathers.




Baines Directory 1822 Sheffield

https://huddersfield.exposed/wiki/Baines%27_Directory:_History,_Directory_and_Gazetteer_of_the_County_of_York,_Volume_1_(1822)_compiled_by_Edward_Baines

Scroll down to page 344

John Stainrod Whitesmith and Job smith Hick lane

Pigot's Directory of 1829 Shefffield

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/Sheffield29Dry

Whitesmith

Hick's lane John Stainrod
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Pigot's Directory of 1834.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/Sheffield34Dry

Whitesmith

Hick's lane John Stainrod

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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth