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From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« on: Tuesday 23 January 18 05:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi there :)

I'm stuck behind a bit of a brick wall! I have an ancestor named William Lombardini who was born in 1803 in Italy (according to the 1841, 1851, 1861 Census as well as the Death Index). He died in October 1869 and had two children with Frances Maria Piercy. I had heard rumour (as well as it appearing on numerous Ancestry pages) that William's father was named Bermarita. However, I could find no record for Bermarita in any English record. Living with William in 1841 is his brother John Baptiste (possibly Jean-Baptiste) Lombardini, who had been born in Switzerland in 1785. He married Mary Sutcliffe and they had three children, however I was unsuccessful in tracing any living descendants. The Lombardini's were quite well documented in Yorkshire, and as early as 1822, John Baptiste shared a trade as a carver and gilder with a Messrs. Bernardo Camillo Lombardini.

Relying on the similarity of the forenames between Bermarita and Bernardo, I have an inkling that they may be one and the same. The company of John Baptiste Lombardini and Bernardo Camillo Lombardini was dissolved in December 1825 (possibly after the death of Bernardo?)

I have searched (on Ancestry) for any record of a Bernardo Camillo Lombardini, however, nothing is showing.
I am quite unexperienced with researching immigrant ancestors and would love to find out more about William's Italian (or Swiss) heritage!

Thank you so much for your help,
I have no idea where to go from here.

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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Presumably the father's name "Bermarita" comes from William's 1843 marriage certificate.
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Re: From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Presumably the father's name "Bermarita" comes from William's 1843 marriage certificate.

You're probably right, Shaun! I do remember seeing it somewhere and I'm pretty sure I have a copy of William's marriage cert somewhere at my father's place (I won't be able to access it until next week as he's on holiday). I'd just love to know more about the family and what the connection is to Italy and as well as what happened to Bermarita. :)

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Re: From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:33 GMT (UK) »
How about this?

https://anglo-italianfhs.org.uk/

That looks quite promising! However I wish they had a free trial so I could use it. :/
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Re: From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Did you try the search box at the top of the page to see if they had any records?
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: From Italy to Yorkshire, England (1790s-1820) Help!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Only 3 records found, two of which are censuses and one which is "unspecified". No results for Bermarita Lombardini and no results for John Baptist Lombardini either.

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