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Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« on: Tuesday 23 January 18 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Iím looking for help with my ancestor Edward Anderson WILSON, born about 1837-9, possibly in or around Manchester, UK.  He migrated to Australia, but I donít know when or at which port he arrived.  His marriage certificate states he was from Lancashire and that his parents were James WILSON and Katherine ANDERSON, but I cannot find a record for his birth, baptism or any records for his parents.  The problem is that the name is too common and when I look he could be any one of dozen.

But he was married whilst still in the UK, so maybe this first wife in the UK had been looking for him!  Unfortunately, I have no details of this marriage.

Is anybody able to look up a newspaper or gazette to see if a wife is looking for her estranged husband?  Or make some suggestions for where I might find this sort of information.

I donít know if he had children in the UK, but his first child in Australia was in 1875, so he could not have left the UK any later than 1873-74.  I also know his profession was a journalist and he wrote turf or racing reports.

Any other brick-wall suggestions are welcome!

Thanks!

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Can you post his marriage details please - date, where and to whom as you say you have the certificate although english marriage certificates don't state where you are from just residence at time of marriage.

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately I know nothing of his marriage in the UK; I only have this information from his marriage in Sydney Australia in 1886, which was after the births of his three children in Australia.  His conjugal status is "widower".  I suggest that he was not able to legally marry his Australian wife until this time (even after his children were born in the 1870s) because his wife in the UK was still alive.

The Australian marriage certificate (7th Oct 1886) states that he is 47 year of age, a widower, a journalist, from Lancashire, his parents are James Wilson and Katherine Anderson and his father was a weaver.

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 16:02 GMT (UK) »
I wonder how he knew when his first wife had died  ??? if he held off marrying his second wife there must have been a reason.  Was she a spinster? 
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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 22:52 GMT (UK) »
To know that he was now a widower, I guess it means that he was in touch with someone in the UK.

When the first child Amy was born in 1875 in Melbourne, the mother is listed as Emma Agnes Wilson, formally Freeman.  And they provided a wedding date of 4 December 1874.  Imagine the surprise of my cousin when he went looking for that wedding certificate and turned up the other one for 1886!

Emma must of known from the start of their relationship that Edward was already married; and she must have been ok with posing as a married couple.  Then when he's received the news of his wife's death, it looks like they've quietly visited a registry office to formalise their marriage.

Emma is listed as a spinster on the marriage certificate.

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps someone has access to UK police gazette records and can run a search?

Or is there a free database with similar information that I can search?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 04:41 GMT (UK) »

When the first child Amy was born in 1875 in Melbourne, the mother is listed as Emma Agnes Wilson, formally Freeman. 

 

Emma is listed as a spinster on the marriage certificate.

Just to clarify here details on the birth certificate of Amy.
Does the section for mother's name actually WILSON formerly FREEMAN?
OR
Does it say WILSON maiden name FREEMAN ?

There is a difference.
FORMERLY usually means a former married name, whilst maiden name means birth name.

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 05:06 GMT (UK) »
I don't have a copy of the Amy Wilson's birth certificate; I have the hand written notes from a person who has viewed it, which says that the mother was Emma Agnes Wilson, formally Freeman.  So they lied - they said they were married, but they weren't.  Emma Agnes Freeman and Edward Anderson Wilson weren't married until 1886 in Sydney and on her marriage she is a spinster.

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Re: Look up or Suggestions - Edward Anderson Wilson
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 05:46 GMT (UK) »
Yes,
I understand what you have said.
My point is .
If  she was FORMERLY FREEMAN, then it means she had been married.
This marriage, would then be an obstacle to an earlier marriage to WILSON.

That is why the exact wording is important.

The fact she stated spinster on the marriage may or may not be the truth.


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