Keeley and Allensby of Islington, St Pancras, St Marylebone

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Well.... The birth cert has arrived with a bit of a curved ball.
The parents of William Allensby Keeley are

William Gillman Keeley born 4 May 1814 St Marylebone  and
Elizabeth Allensby birth unknown died 1887 and not who I thought was his mother
They married 19 Sept 1852 St Marylebone.
The 3 children of the marriage were
Mary Ann b 1850
William Allensby (my Gx2 Gfather) b 7 Feb 1847
Thomas b 1844 St Giles Middlx .

Now Caroline 1st wife(nee Verzey) died in 1845 so I am wondering if Thomas was her or Elizabeth's son.  William Allensby and Thomas were born before the 2nd marriage.

William Allensby's birth cert shows Elizabeth Keeley not Allensby as his mother as though they were married then.

Could anyone do me a look up in Parish records to see if Mary Ann and Thomas's parentage is shown?  If I'm honest I can't find the original records that led me to these on my PC.   I lost a lot of information a while ago when it crashed. 

Many thanks

[avm228]

What is the relevance of Thomas and Mary Ann?  It seems to me they are in a different family entirely (headed by William & Mary aka Mary Ann) - that William still being alive in 1881 after your William Gillman Keeley died in 1872?

[avm228]

These are your people in 1861:

2 Huggins Cottages, Islington

William Keeley Head Mar 46 Painter Middx St Marylebone
Elizabeth do Wife Mar 35 Cambridgeshire Ely
William do Son 14 Errand boy Middx Islington
Rose do Daur 10 Scholar Middx Clerkenwell (Rose Keeley mmn Allensby, Mar qtr 1851 Clerkenwell)

RG9/131/32/5

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And in 1851:

31 Collier St, Clerkenwell

William G Keeley Head Mar 35 Painter & glazier St Marylebone
Elizabeth do Wife Mar 25 Ely Cambridgeshire
William A do Son 4 Islington
Fanny do Daur 2 Islington (Fanny Keeley, mmn Allensby, Dec qtr 1848 Islington)
Rose do Daur 2mo Clerkenwell

HO107/1518/272/35

[avm228]

Death of Fanny Keeley aged 4, Sep qtr 1853 Islington.

[gingernut1]

What is the relevance of Thomas and Mary Ann?  It seems to me they are in a different family entirely (headed by William & Mary aka Mary Ann) - that William still being alive in 1881 after your William Gillman Keeley died in 1872?

I think Thomas and Mary are wrong.   I must have originally got the wrong family.   

[gingernut1]

Thank you for all this.  My grandmother was the daughter of William Allensby Keeley and she was a Fanny - looks like she was named after the daughter who died.   I've got a bit of work to do tomorrow now altering the tree.   I do appreciate your efforts.

ginger

[avm228]

You’re welcome.

I also found the death of Rose Keeley aged “14”, Mar qtr 1866 Islington.