Author Topic: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?  (Read 1060 times)

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Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« on: Tuesday 23 January 18 12:31 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure if I have got the hang of resizing images, etc but here goes.

Could someone suggest a date for this photograph?

The chap seated at the right hand end of the front row is my great-grandfather 1869-1927. He was a gardener from Newbury, Berks.

This would be a long shot, but could it be Stourhead House?

Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 20:53 GMT (UK) »
I think it would be 1917-1920, going by the women's hats  and some of the men's collars/ties.

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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Gadget.

Can I ask what is it about the hats and collars/ties that pins it down to such a narrow period?

Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Just that that was what they wore during that period - according to my books.  The problem is that it looks like a staff photo and many of the men were in work clothes, which have a wide date range, so we have to pick up clues from the little snippets, like hats, etc.

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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks.

This ties in with a 1917 postcard from Stourhead suggesting my grandfather was going to work there with Edmund.

I suppose I should now post on the Wiltshire board?
Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
Surrey Edwards Knight Lanaway

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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 10:04 GMT (UK) »
What extra do you want to know - is it whether it is Stourhead House?
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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 10:06 GMT (UK) »
This modern pic of Stourhead has a door feature very like yours - note the section above the door in both:

https://www.linusmoranphotography.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Stourhead-Wedding-Photographers_0050.jpg

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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Gadget,

It does look similar, but don't you think the distance from the ground to the top of the open french window [?] is much shorter in my photo?
Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
Surrey Edwards Knight Lanaway

GEDmatch kit : A134159

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Re: Date of this photo Edmund Barlow 1869-1927 at Stourhead, Wilts?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
Surrey Edwards Knight Lanaway

GEDmatch kit : A134159