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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 17:34 GMT (UK) »
In 1861, an Emma Sullivan jr and James Sullivan (there is a birth on the GRO for a Jane Sullivan to a Knapp MMN) are living here:  RG9/382 F 8 P 24.  They appear to be with a Slaughter? family, but I've yet to find a connection.

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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Emma Knapp/Napp’s paternal details from the marriages:

1849: William Knapp, greengrocer
1863: William Napp, horse dealer
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 17:37 GMT (UK) »
In 1861, an Emma Sullivan jr and James Sullivan (there is a birth on the GRO for a Jane Sullivan to a Knapp MMN) are living here:  RG9/382 F 8 P 24.  They appear to be with a Slaughter? family, but I've yet to find a connection.

I like a good mystery, but my head hurts! ::)

Both Peckham or Camberwell-born stepchildren? May be unconnected.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Possible for Emma snr in 1861 (as Butcher, already with future husband George Butcher, a hawker as per the 1863 marriage):

RG9/329/184/41

Not sure where son James Butcher, 10 b Southwark, fits in or what has happened to Emma jnr and Jane.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Sorry if you have this , or it's already been covered :

George Camplin O'Brien born abt 1815 O-D 1873 Greenwich 1d 595
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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 19:05 GMT (UK) »
There is a George O'Brien , b 1815 , Greenwich Pensioner , on the 1871 census as a lodger at 12 Chester Street , Greenwich, birthplace London. It would be interesting to know if this is George Camplin O'Brien who died in 1873 in Greenwich.
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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
That's great Christine, thank you! It could be him.  Hopefully we can prove it...  :-X
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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 19:17 GMT (UK) »
George O’Brien, a seaman of Deptford, was awarded a Greenwich Special Pension for life of £27 8s per annum from 1 October 1869, in addition to the £9 2s per annum Naval pension which he had already been awarded.  George was recorded as aged 54 at the date of this award in 1869.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Cempline O'Brien - married 1851 Southwark - any trace before or after?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 24 January 18 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital Admissions and Discharges, 1826-1930
George O'Brien
Admission Age:43
Birth Date:abt 1815
Birth Place:London
Admission Date:11 Oct 1858
Admission Place: London,

Admitted with diseased spine ??
discharged Nov 18th