HARTLEY, William S. (1851-1928); Lost in "Hartley Country," Lancashire

[JKnight83]

Missing: William Shepard Hartley. Born on or about 5 May, 1851, somewhere in Lancashire. Parents were Thomas and Hannah. Emigrated to Canada before 1877, when he was married in Ontario. I would appreciate any assistance locating him and his family!

[PaulineJ]

There's no birth in the index for that particular name.
What documentation give his parents names?

[MaureeninNY]

Welcome to RootsChat!

It looks to me as though a brother (George Shep*d HARTLEY) as well as the father Thomas also ended up in Ontario.

Here's George marrying:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMF5-XZK

Did he marry a sister of William's wife?

If you look at the 1871 Canadian census you can spot Thomas and George living close together in Hastings.(Ontario)

Probably Thomas' first marriage:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJRW-WYT

Sorry,I'm making a bit of a mess of this but maybe someone else can carry on!
Dinner's about to burn.

Maureen

[keyboard86]

Hi all, maybe a coincedence but a John Hartley 51 and Elizabeth Hartley 54 have in their household a group of SHEPHERD members, also a Visitor/Married b Yorkshire Thomas Hartley aged 40 in 1861 census RG09/3039/101/22 for Spotland Rochdale.
Keyboard86

EDIT seeing the reply above, does not look therefore like the correct Thomas!

[MaureeninNY]

Back again.

Maybe in 1851:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5S-H43

Birth from GRO:
HARTLEY, WILLIAM       mmn SHEPHERD 
 1848  S Quarter in BOLTON UNION  Volume 21  Page 83

Doesn't match the 5 May, 1851 dob though!

Maureen

[heatherjulie]

John Hartley married Elizabeth Shepherd in 1853 Rochdale, St Chad

[Annette7]

Thomas Townson Hartley married Hannah Shephard 27/3/1826 Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire.   Both single - he signed - his occupation Hatter (which ties in with 1851 census when family are in Great Bolton, Lancashire).

Thomas Townson Heartley b.4/8/1804, bp.26/8/1804 Hornby, Lancashire, son of Christopher Smith Heartley and Mary (1851 census states born Wray, Lancashire but first church in this tiny village was not built until 1840.   Hornby is 1 mile ESE of Wray.

Hannah Shepherd shown bc.1807 Caston, Derbyshire per 1851 census - thought this should probably be Castleton (enumerator having difficult with her dialect perhaps) and a Hannah Shepherd bp.10/1/1807 Castleton, Derbyshire, dau. of George and Nancy.

In 1841 the family are in Manchester.

So, this family did indeed end up in Canada - where Thomas died as Thos. T. Hartley 20/4/1878 Hastings, Ontario.   The only 'blip' is that their son William was born in 1848, birth reg'd Jul-Sept.qtr Bolton.   If his birthdate was 5 May (as stated on census in Canada) his birth should appear in the June quarter unless registered late for some reason.

Annette

[Annette7]

Thomas Townson Hartley and Hannah Shepherd had at least the following children:
*George b.10/5/1828, bp.21/12/1828 St.George, Hulme (Manchester)
Thomas Townson bp.23/1/1831 Manchester Cathedral
John bp.9/6/1833 Manchester Cathedral
Elizabeth bp.10/1/1836 Cockermouth, Cumberland - bur.3/2/1836 Cockermouth
Elizabeth Ann bp.1/1/1837 Cockermouth - bur.29/10/1837 Cockermouth
Christopher Smith bp.25/11/1838 Cockermouth
Joseph bp.13/12/1840 Cockermouth
Robert bp.28/5/1843 Cockermouth - bur.6/8/1843 Cockermouth
Ralph bp.16/7/1844 Cockermouth    )
Hannah bp.16/7/1844 Cockermouth ) twins - can't see Hannah in 1851 so perhaps she died.
William b.1848 Bolton
James b.1851 Bolton
(Doesn't look like the last 2 were baptised).

*Baptism entry confirms Hannah's maiden name of Shepherd, Thomas is a 'Hatter' and they were then living at York Street, Hulme.

Annette

[JKnight83]

Thank you! I only discovered the marriage to William's brother after posting my question. I am very grateful for the amazing help that everyone provided! Truly above and beyond anything I had hoped for!