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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:18 GMT (UK) »
After conference with Jen  a very light makeover of the second photo - (not wonderful dpi for full job - sorry Jen).   Trying new saving tecnique to see if I can get this posting problem sorted out.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriess,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:19 GMT (UK) »
And one saved differently - and with his collar fixed.  ;)

Well those both worked!  :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriess,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 January 18 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou Wiggy, these are beautiful restorations, you have achieved wonderful detail on the dresses too.  I did wonder about that collar!  looks so much better.

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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 January 18 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Hello Carol,   Thankyou for dating the photos, very helpful.  I did have a family in mind but the youngest daughter was born in 1887 making her 21 in 1908.  The girl on the extreme left looks younger with her hair down and large bow at the back.  Not good at guessing ages, what do you think the ages of the three women would be and is it possible the man on the right is the same as the man in uniform?

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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 January 18 04:24 GMT (UK) »
I am not good at comparisons but I wouldn't say he is the same man.  Might just be that one is smiling and the other not, but . . .  :-\

 You need someone who is better at putting photos beside or superimposed on each other.

The other photo . . not much done to it - only 72dpi scan.  His coat is still rather dirty - sorry about that.   Not bad for 100 years old though.  ;)

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriess,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 January 18 04:36 GMT (UK) »
Same again in different format.  Thanks for letting me practise Jen.  ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriess,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 January 18 05:53 GMT (UK) »
You are welcome Wiggy,  These 2 restores are also excellent thankyou!  Much better definition
                           and contrast he looks very sharp indeed.


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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 January 18 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Jen.

Hereís my comparison - for what itís worth - using Wiggyís nice sharp restores.

Iíve inserted a third head in the middle, reducing it in size a tiny bit and tilting it ever so slightly so that the ears and eyes have a slight slant to the left like those of the man in uniform; and overall so that the features match as closely as possible for valid comparison purposes.

While the two men are alike, I think I can see that the lad from the group photo seems to have a narrower nose, a longer chin, longer ears and a narrower but higher forehead (if you can imagine whatís under the cap ;)). And I think the man in the uniform has a slightly more v-shaped face. Itís all fairly subtle, though, and others may see it differently.

Iíve also included one of the ladies to show what I think might be a family trait and not a trick of the light when comparing the two men. Both of the people from the group photo have more ďopenĒ eyes than the fellow in the uniform, whose eyes appear to be more heavily lidded.

Itís not easy though. People can look  different in different lights, different angles, different expressions, and so on. In comparing faces I try to look below the surface at bone structure, eyes, ears, whether hair is fine or coarse and so forth - things that donít change in different circumstances. And sometimes the most telling thing can be the overall ďlookĒ. And Iím no expert! ;D

In my long-winded way, I agree with Wiggy. Although they are alike, I donít think itís the same man.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: Unidentified uniform or costume - help please photographer was S. Edwin
« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 January 18 10:35 GMT (UK) »
I have to agree with peter...not the same man.
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