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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:33 GMT (UK) »
I've decided to go for 1909-10 and Dorothy and Gladys. 

None of my books have much on children  and what they show are indoor, formal shots or included in groups. Here's a link to a page on one site that I occasionally look at :

http://www.fashion-era.com/Childrens_clothes/1900_1910_girls_costume_pictures.htm

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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Gadget -  I was just typing this as you posted !

If the photo is March 1907, then the girls would be:

Dorothy aged 1 year 6 months  and Gladys 3 years and 8 months

How about these two in March 1909 or 1910?

Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:43 GMT (UK) »
 4 and 6 or 5 and 7 and Dorothy and Gladys for me.  Lillian would be too old and Winifred has already died.

It could be April - late flowering  daffodils  ;D

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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:50 GMT (UK) »
I've decided to go for 1909-10 and Dorothy and Gladys. 

None of my books have much on children  and what they show are indoor, formal shots or included in groups. Here's a link to a page on one site that I occasionally look at :

http://www.fashion-era.com/Childrens_clothes/1900_1910_girls_costume_pictures.htm

Gadget

Me too.
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 27 January 18 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks everyone  :D- especially Carol and Gadget
Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 27 January 18 10:16 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Gadget that children are hard to date....clothes were often passed down and altered...the younger child looks to have a dress that is a little bit big for her and has been taken up...the other child's dress looks a little on the small size if you look at the sleeves...but on balance, I think they are most likely to be Dorothy and Gladys.

I love it...it reminds me of Frank Sutcliffe's street photography.


http://www.sutcliffe-gallery.co.uk/gallery_194448.html

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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 27 January 18 10:26 GMT (UK) »
In the 1950s, my Mum used to buy me clothes that were a size to big, so that I could grow into them. My sister was 7 years older than me so I didn't have hand me downs. We did share clothes in the 1960s though!

I have some of the Sutcliffe books - wonderful images. :)

* shoes had to be Startrite - Clarks and measure via those funny X-ray machines ;)
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 27 January 18 10:36 GMT (UK) »
As the photo is backed by a postcard, does this mean it was taken by a commercial photographer who went around the streets looking for people to hand over a few bob for a likeness?
Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
South Oxon - Barlow Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk - Philpott Stone
Surrey Edwards Knight Lanaway

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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 27 January 18 10:45 GMT (UK) »
More than likely...natural photos of every day life taken on the spare of the moment...that's what adds to the charm  :D
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